Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP
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Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP



SM,

Thanks for your review and thank you Russ for the edits. I'll just comment on the one remaining issue:

"3. The IESG finds that publication is harmful to the IETF work done
in WG <X> and recommends not publishing the document at this time."

I don't think that harmful is appropriate here. I gather that the aim is to prevent circumvention of the IETF process and conflicts with work being carried out by the Working Group.

It could be phrased as:

The IESG finds that this work is related to IETF work done in WG <X>
and recommends not publishing the document at this time.

The issue is that mere conflict with work in a WG is not a sufficient reason to recommend against publishing. The IESG needs to make a judgment call that such publication would actually be harmful to the standardization process in the WG. For instance, in a recent case we approved an independent publication even if the document was clearly in the domain of a WG because we felt the circumstances supported it. You have to consider a number of aspects, where the WG is in its process, whether the particular submission is likely to confuse the process, etc.

I don't care so much what words we use to say this, but I would like to see that the ability to make this judgment call is retained. This is why I like the current text more than the proposed one above.

Jari

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