Re: where to send RFC 5378 license forms

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no>]

Simon Josefsson skrev:
> Ray Pelletier <rpelletier at isoc.org> writes:
>
>   
> > On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >
> >     
> > > Why do we need to send these license forms in at all?
> > >
> > > I thought the requirement was that the authors get the necessary
> > > rights.  Are you just conveniently keeping track for us?
> > >       
> > I would envision folks providing 5378 licenses to the Trust or their
> > pre-5378 work. If licenses are submitted their names could be posted
> > online for other Contributors to  ascertain whether a pre-existing
> > work has been so licensed.
> >     
>
> How does this help contributors use the older material?  As far as I
> understood the rules, it is the author that needs to get the necessary
> rights from the original contributor before submitting it to the IETF.
> The form appears to give the necessary rights from the original
> contributor to the IETF Trust, not to the authors.
If the Trust has those rights, it's licensing them to all participants 
under the same terms as post-5378 works.

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Subject: Re: where to send RFC 5378 license forms
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Simon Josefsson skrev:
> Ray Pelletier <rpelletier at isoc.org> writes:
>
>   
> > On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >
> >     
> > > Why do we need to send these license forms in at all?
> > >
> > > I thought the requirement was that the authors get the necessary
> > > rights.  Are you just conveniently keeping track for us?
> > >       
> > I would envision folks providing 5378 licenses to the Trust or their
> > pre-5378 work. If licenses are submitted their names could be posted
> > online for other Contributors to  ascertain whether a pre-existing
> > work has been so licensed.
> >     
>
> How does this help contributors use the older material?  As far as I
> understood the rules, it is the author that needs to get the necessary
> rights from the original contributor before submitting it to the IETF.
> The form appears to give the necessary rights from the original
> contributor to the IETF Trust, not to the authors.
If the Trust has those rights, it's licensing them to all participants 
under the same terms as post-5378 works.

              Harald
Harald

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