It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the "Ietf-honest" mailing list])

[Dave CROCKER <dhc2 at dcrocker.net>]

Folks,

The enclosed comes from iadl.org which is controlled by av8.com which is 
controlled by Dean Anderson.

Normally, I advocate entirely ignoring silliness, but the current version of it 
is more than silly.

This action by Dean is not merely posting inappropriate notes that would warrant 
temporary suspension of list privileges.  It is an organized, aggressive and -- 
if you look at the web page associated with iadl.org web page -- highly ad 
hominem attack on the IETF community.

Since we happen to simultaneously be suffering a DOS attack on the list from a 
separately-concerned community, I suggest that it is time for taking some new steps:

  1. Permanently and irrevocably ban postings from any and all addresses that 
Dean controls.  An organized attack warrants it.

  2. Highten strictures on ietf list posting.  I'm not entirely clear what 
level the current bar is set to, but we need to set it higher, to reduce the 
ability to limit the ability of organized advocate groups to disrupt the list.

The IETF list culture was formulated for a more civilized time.  We wish we 
still lived in that town.

This isn't about message content.  It's about efforts at disruption.

d/


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Welcome to the "Ietf-honest" mailing list
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:57:37 -0500
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