Re: how to contact the IETF

[Clint Chaplin <clint.chaplin at gmail.com>]

Alex,

This is not the first time the FSF has mailbombed ietg at ietf.org, in
fact this is the second time they have done so on this issue alone.

IIRC, from the previous time, not one person stuck around afterwards
to actually initiate a dialog.  It was all a one-way blast of
"communication", a monologue if you will.  And a not very useful one;
it was either ignored or caused a reaction in the direction opposite
to the lobbied one.

On 2/9/09, Alex Loret de Mola <edgarverona at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Noel:
>
>  Noel, there's no need to be cross.  The mail is filling up my inbox
>  the same as yours, there's no need to get upset with me about my
>  opinion on the matter.
>
>  I don't think we should assume that the people messaging here have
>  nothing of substance to contribute.  While it is likely true that some
>  don't have anything meaningful to add to the conversation, I doubt
>  that the entirety of the people who found out about the issue through
>  that channel are ignorant on the issues being discussed.
>
>  Are some uninformed?  Certainly.  Will those who stick around be
>  uninformed for long?  I would hope not.  Will they be able to
>  contribute meaningfully?  It depends on the individual.
>
>  But the big question... is it worthwhile for this mailing to take
>  place?  I feel that it has the potential to be, depending on how many
>  people stick around to contribute meaningfully on this and future
>  discussions.  While I hear your proposition that this isn't going to
>  happen, Noel, I don't think that should just be immediately assumed
>  merely based on the origins of where those coming in here first heard
>  about the issue.  That seems like a large net to cast.
>
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>  Alex Loret de Mola
>  Lead Software Engineer, iScan Services
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
>  >    > From: Alex Loret de Mola <edgarverona at gmail.com>
>  >
>  >    > However, these are people who are upset, and want to make thier
>  >    > opinions known... it is good to know (and see) that so many people are
>  >    > interested and have a strong opinion about this subject.
>  >
>  > Give me an effing break. These people have simply been programmed by the FSF
>  > to show up and complain. This is not individuals who have something of
>  > substance to contribute, it's just a chorus of sheep.
>  >
>  >        Noel
>  >
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Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin
Principal Engineer
Corporate Standardization (US)
SISA