Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt
james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com> Tue, 09 June 2009 17:43 UTC
Return-Path: <jhw@apple.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D082B3A6BD6 for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -106.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lwWXlhRk5k0g for <ietf@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D98B3A69E7 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781DD63E2BEA; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 597C828082; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-AuditID: 11807134-a3c7abb0000021f3-12-4a2e9f335b88
Received: from [17.151.124.33] (unknown [17.151.124.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id E7D7328041; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:43:15 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <04AB2851-A9B4-4E79-B4EE-E178CF8B5AA3@apple.com>
From: james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com>
To: IETF-Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
In-Reply-To: <12130.1244550492.963939@puncture>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed"; delsp="yes"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3)
Subject: Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:43:15 -0700
References: <20090609024502.05A883A67F6@core3.amsl.com> <8987F5DB-1395-44F3-A4F0-44725FCC3D7E@gbiv.com> <12130.1244550492.963939@puncture>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3)
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
Cc: http-live-streaming-review@group.apple.com, "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:43:10 -0000
On Jun 9, 2009, at 05:28, Dave Cridland wrote: > > To be fair: > > a) This one is *just* a poorly written draft [...]. ...as an individual contribution, ...in the Informational category. > b) Apple are, at least, producing a public specification in a > reasonable forum for discussion. Moreover, Mr. Pantos chose IETF rather than some slushpile with looser editorial standards. We should be happy when a company as secretive as Apple allows their employees to submit drafts to us, even-- especially-- when the manuscripts that land in our slushpile are not yet ready for immediate publication. If IETF doesn't think the information in this draft is worth compiling into a document worthy of sending to the RFC Editor, then that would be good for Mr. Pantos to know. It would probably save him a lot of effort and frustration. I'm sure he looks forward to whatever constructive feedback IETF participants can provide, and I can assure everyone here that nobody at Apple feels their employment status entitles them to any special consideration for their individual contributions. -- james woodyatt <jhw@apple.com> member of technical staff, communications engineering
- Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-0… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-0… Dave Cridland
- Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-0… james woodyatt