Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

[Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov at isode.com>]

Cullen Jennings wrote:
> On October 8, the IESG approved the registration of 
> application/3gpp-ims+xml Media Type.  On Nov 2, RIM filed an IPR 
> disclosure related to this at
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1219/
>
> The associated patent, filed Oct 2008, is at
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?id=Mk7GAAAAEBAJ
>
> and the related draft is
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bakker-sipping-3gpp-ims-xml-body-handling 
>
>
> I will note John-Luc Bakker from RIM is an author of both the patent 
> and  and the draft. The draft has been widely discussed at IETF with 
> no mention of IPR before this. As an IESG member, I was not aware of 
> this IPR at the time the approval was made and I do not believe any 
> other IESG members were aware of it.
I agree with this assessment. I was not aware of any related IPRs when I 
sponsored this MIME type registration and I don't think other IESG 
members knew either.
> I do believe the discussion would have been different had the IESG 
> been aware of this IPR.