[EAI] And the winner is...... MESSAGE/GLOBAL
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 24 August 2007 09:49 UTC
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Subject: [EAI] And the winner is...... MESSAGE/GLOBAL
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more serioiusly: After considering the available alternatives, and after weighing the various arguments given in favour of one group of alternatives or the other, the WG consensus seems to be that it's not unreasonable to go with the name "MESSAGE/GLOBAL" for the MIME type that represents messages structured according to draft-ietf-eai-utf8headers. Details below, written from the very useful program that Charles Lindsey supplied. The slicing and dicing of this list should give a lot of indication of which arguments found favour, which were universally accepted, which were strongly polarizing, and which were studiously ignored. But I believe that we Interesting points: - There were 8 (out of 11) alternatives where someone had that alternative in the first spot. - Message/i18n was the only one to not have any instance in the 2 first spots - The same type was also the only one that nobody had in the last 2 spots The last opinion to be stated arrived in my mailbox just 4 minutes after the deadline; I chose to include it, and it did not affect the outcome. If I missed anyone's opinion, or anyone spots a transcription error, please call it out! NOTE: I'll be largely-off-net from approx. 1 hour after sending this message unti Wednesday evening, August 29. So don't expect rapid responses to such notices - sorry about that! message/utf8smtp-------------------------------------------------------------+ message/utf8eai-----------------------------------------------------------+ | message/utf8-email-----------------------------------------------------+ | | message/mail--------------------------------------------------------+ | | | message/intl-email-----------------------------------------------+ | | | | message/international-----------------------------------------+ | | | | | message/ima------------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | message/i18n-email--------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | message/i18n-----------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | message/global------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | message/eai------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Abel Yang 2 8 6 7 3 9 10 11 5 4 1 Alexey Melnikov 1 3 5 7 2 4 6 9 10 8 11 Andrew Sullivan 10 2 5 4 11 3 6 1 8 9 7 Bill McQuillan 7 5 3 4 8 1 2 6 9 11 10 Charles Lindsey 10 6 7 2 11 8 1 5 3 9 4 Chris Newman 8 2 7 5 9 1 3 4 6 10 11 Harald Alvestrand 10 2 3 6 11 1 5 4 9 8 7 John Klensin 5 3 7 8 6 4 2 1 10 11 9 Joseph Yee 7 6 5 3 10 11 2 4 1 8 9 Kazunori Fujiwara 2 10 8 5 4 9 7 11 6 3 1 Mao Wei 11 1 6 5 10 2 3 4 7 8 9 Martin Duerst 3 4 6 7 2 5 8 1 10 9 11 Pete Resnick 2 5 9 10 1 3 6 11 7 4 8 Soobok Lee 2 8 6 7 3 9 10 11 5 4 1 Ted Hardie 1 4 5 6 2 7 8 3 9 11 10 Tony Hansen 7 2 5 4 6 1 3 10 8 9 11 Trond Skjesol 9 8 4 3 10 11 2 1 6 7 5 Yangwoo Ko 10 2 4 5 11 3 6 1 7 9 8 Yao Jiankang 10 2 8 5 9 1 3 4 6 7 11 Yoshiro Yoneya 10 6 5 2 11 4 1 3 7 8 9 Zoltan Ordogh 10 7 8 4 9 1 2 6 3 11 5 RESULT: message/global is preferred to message/eai by 14 : 7 message/global is preferred to message/i18n by 14 : 7 message/global is preferred to message/i18n-email by 12 : 9 message/global is preferred to message/ima by 14 : 7 message/global is preferred to message/international by 12 : 9 message/global is preferred to message/intl-email by 13 : 8 message/global is preferred to message/mail by 11 : 10 message/global is preferred to message/utf8-email by 14 : 7 message/global is preferred to message/utf8eai by 16 : 5 message/global is preferred to message/utf8smtp by 15 : 6 message/global is therefore a condorcet winner The following matrix shows the votes in more detail. The number at [row,column] indicates the number of voters who placed the [row] option ahead of the [column] option in their order of preference message/utf8smtp---------------------------------------------------------+ | message/utf8eai----------------------------------------------------+ | | | message/utf8-email-------------------------------------------+ | | | | | message/mail-------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | message/intl-email-------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | message/international----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | message/ima--------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/i18n-email-------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/i18n-------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/global-----+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/eai--+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------- \\ 7 8 8 15 9 7 7 10 13 10 | | | | | | | | | +----------- 14 \\ 14 12 14 12 13 11 14 16 15 | | | | | | | | +------------- 13 7 \\ 10 13 7 8 8 12 16 15 | | | | | | | +--------------- 13 9 11 \\ 13 8 7 11 16 17 17 | | | | | | +----------------- 6 7 8 8 \\ 9 7 7 10 11 9 | | | | | +------------------- 12 9 14 13 12 \\ 15 12 15 16 15 | | | | +--------------------- 14 8 13 14 14 6 \\ 14 17 17 18 | | | +----------------------- 14 10 13 10 14 9 7 \\ 13 15 15 | | +------------------------- 11 7 9 5 11 6 4 8 \\ 14 14 | +--------------------------- 8 5 5 4 10 5 4 6 7 \\ 9 +----------------------------- 11 6 6 4 12 6 3 6 7 12 \\ The second matrix shows the effect of subtracting [column,row] from [row.column] so as to give the majority in favour of [row] as against [column]. Observe that the winning row(s) has no negative entries. message/utf8smtp---------------------------------------------------------+ | message/utf8eai----------------------------------------------------+ | | | message/utf8-email-------------------------------------------+ | | | | | message/mail-------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | message/intl-email-------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | message/international----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | message/ima--------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/i18n-email-------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/i18n-------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/global-----+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | message/eai--+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------- \\ -7 -5 -5 9 -3 -7 -7 -1 5 -1 | | | | | | | | | +----------- 7 \\ 7 3 7 3 5 1 7 11 9 winner | | | | | | | | +------------- 5 -7 \\ -1 5 -7 -5 -5 3 11 9 | | | | | | | +--------------- 5 -3 1 \\ 5 -5 -7 1 11 13 13 | | | | | | +----------------- -9 -7 -5 -5 \\ -3 -7 -7 -1 1 -3 | | | | | +------------------- 3 -3 7 5 3 \\ 9 3 9 11 9 | | | | +--------------------- 7 -5 5 7 7 -9 \\ 7 13 13 15 | | | +----------------------- 7 -1 5 -1 7 -3 -7 \\ 5 9 9 | | +------------------------- 1 -7 -3 -11 1 -9 -13 -5 \\ 7 7 | +--------------------------- -5 -11 -11 -13 -1 -11 -13 -9 -7 \\ -3 +----------------------------- 1 -9 -9 -13 3 -9 -15 -9 -7 3 \\ _______________________________________________ IMA mailing list IMA@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ima
- [EAI] And the winner is...... MESSAGE/GLOBAL Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [EAI] And the winner is...... MESSAGE/GLOBAL Charles Lindsey
- Re: [EAI] And the winner is...... MESSAGE/GLOBAL Harald Alvestrand