Re: [IMRG] imrg futures

[Henk Uijterwaal <henk at ripe.net>]

At 03:32 07/03/2005, Mark Allman wrote:

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The problem that I see is not that we cannot come up with a set of topics
that we want to discuss and pursue, but that the IMRG does not have a
framework that forces us to actually do some research, then write it
up and discuss it in a serious but not too formal setting.   On the other
hand, there is a whole series of formal and informal workshops and
conferences (PAM200x, IMC, IEEE-E2EMON, RIPE TT-WG, NANOG's research
session, ..., etc, etc) with CFP's and meetings.  Most of us have
other obligations as well.  The net result of all this, is (or at least
seems to be) that we all end up with great plans what to do in the
IMRG framework, then find out that we have so many other deadlines to
meet that all these plans end up somewhere on the bottom of the stack.

The exception to this was the BEST workshop organized 2 years ago,
where a number of people on a topic met and discussed bandwidth estimation
for 2 days and actually made progress.

We obviously should not try to organize yet another workshop on
measurements.  However, I do think that if we want to make progress in
this RG, we should not only come up with a list of topic, but also with
some plan that "forces" people to actually follow up on suggestions
and present/discuss results,

Henk


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