RE: [IMRG] directing the discussion

["Loki Jorgenson" <ljorgenson at apparentnetworks.com>]

All well received.

And I would add to your list of "who needs to the information" -
applications people or people involved in applications research.  These
people are neither experimenting on the Internet or running the
Internet.  But they are involved in work that has a direct dependency on
the Internet and networks in general.  And they need to characterize the
beast for their own purposes.

This is where I find the "rubber hits the road" and defines relevant
metrics.  And I imagine it is where some very interesting
cross-pollination can take place (networking and.... something).

-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Rexford [mailto:jrex at CS.Princeton.EDU] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:52 PM
To: Loki Jorgenson
Cc: imrg at ietf.org
Subject: RE: [IMRG] directing the discussion

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In terms of the important question of "who needs the information," I
think
we have at least two camps -- those using data to characterize the beast
(e.g., research folks trying to do experimental science on the Internet,
including work on understanding the performance and limitations of our
existing protocols and/or evaluate new designs) and those using data to
run
the network (e.g., operators trying to detect anomalies, do traffic
engineering, thwart attacks, etc.), though increasingly the lines are
blurry
as more research folks jump in to creating and evaluating techniques for
using measurement data to help operators.

-- Jen



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