Re: #1273 How do we usefully define "excerpt"?

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey at worldnet.att.net>]

Thanks Simon - there are other issues about Copyrights as well - did you
know for instance that in order to file a court case against a CI matter
(infringement) that the Copyrights would have to be formally registered with
the Library of Congress per my understanding. Also failing to do that - i.e.
failing to fight an infringement is essentially tantamount to abandoning the
IP which apparently the IETF  does not have the legal rights to do since
this would breach the agreement it has with the submitters of the IP's
themselves.

All of this is per what the IETF's role is and how it wants to relicense or
protect the ITEF's IP's if they in fact do exist.

Todd
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harald Alvestrand" <harald at alvestrand.no>
To: "Simon Josefsson" <jas at extundo.com>
Cc: "Brian E Carpenter" <brc at zurich.ibm.com>; <ipr-wg at ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: #1273 How do we usefully define "excerpt"?


> Simon Josefsson wrote:
> >
> >>> John Klensin has raised another concern:
> >>>
> >>> "I'm prepared to lose this one, although, if I do, I'm going to
> >>> press strongly for copyright transfers to the IETF so the policy
> >>> can be administered ("why that is relevant" is probably a
> >>> different thread, but hinges on when an excerpt isn't "just" an
> >>> excerpt)."
> >>>
> >> I'm not sure. If we get the right to allow derivative works by 3rd
parties,
> >> why would we need this?
> >>
> >
> > Good question, I don't see why.
> >
> > In general, I think that Copyright transfers may be a good idea
> > anyway.  It would, e.g., enable the IETF to defend copyright
> > infringement on RFCs.  OTOH, the IETF might prefer to avoid wasting
> > time in court though.
> >
> As Todd Glassey is fond of pointing out, copyright transfers are usually
> done via mechanisms that have relatively high transaction costs - both
> in terms of number of steps required and in the number of signoffs one
> usually has to get before jumping through those hoops.
>
> How much more expensive can we usefully make the process?
>
> > /Simon
> >
> >
>
>
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