Re: Summary of revised Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-rules-update

[Simon Josefsson <jas at extundo.com>]

Harald Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no> writes:

> Based on this tally, the chairs will send
> draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update-00 to the IESG for Last Call and
> approval.

I wish we could have a WGLC on the actual document first, though, but
maybe there is no time.  In any case, here are my comments on the
document.  If there is no time to address this before the Last Call,
I'll send them again later.

The document seems to go beyond changing "ISOC" into "IETF Trust",
which was what one of the chairs indicated earlier:

"Steven M. Bellovin" <smb at cs.columbia.edu> writes:

> If the WG is unhappy with this draft, we will proceed with
> draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update-00.txt instead, a draft that changes
> nothing but the ISOC->Trust text.

Specifically, the document also changes "IETF" to "IETF Trust" in
several places.  The definition of IETF is:

   a. "IETF":  In the context of this document, the IETF includes all
      individuals who participate in meetings, working groups, mailing
      lists, functions and other activities which are organized or
      initiated by ISOC, the IESG or the IAB under the general
      designation of the Internet Engineering Task Force or IETF, but
      solely to the extent of such participation.

The "IETF" is not the same as the "IETF Trust".  Changing the former
to the latter in the legalese modifies the rights granted directly to
IETF participants.

Those changes seems unwarranted and unrelated -- as far as I
understood, the urgency is that RFC 3978 no longer should refer to
ISOC, but instead reference the IETF Trust.

Specifically, the urgency was _not_ that the references to "IETF" was
problematic, so I believe we should not remove, in several places,
that term in the document, but defer that change to other IPR WG
decisions.

Therefor, I request that draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update should be
updated to only change "ISOC" and "Internet Society" to "IETF Trust".
Do not also change "IETF" into "IETF Trust".

Thanks,
Simon

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