Re: Outgoing section 5.5 and draft-josefsson (Re: San Diego meeting slot)

[Simon Josefsson <jas at extundo.com>]

Harald Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no> writes:

> Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> Harald Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no> writes:
>>
>>   
>>> I think we need to separate the question of copyright notices from the
>>> question of copying conditions.
>>>     
>>
>> Why?
>>   
> Because a copyright notice is a statement about a fact that we have no
> intention of changing (we have not planned to do copyright
> assignment).

Ah, right, I agree.

> We *are* debating copying conditions.

I believe draft-josefsson-ipr-notices-00 discuss copyright notices
only.

>>> The BSD licenses require preservation of copryight notices; the GPL
>>> licenses place requirements on the copying conditions.
>>>     
>>
>> That is false, from the BSD license:
>> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
>>
>>    Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>>    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>>
>> The "list of conditions and the following disclaimer" refer to the
>> copying conditions.
>>
>> The BSD and GPL are similar in this respect, at least if I understand
>> what you are getting at.
> So the BSD license may have the same problem as the GPL license in
> this regard.

Right.  That's why I suggest that a "IETF source code license" may be
a poor idea, especially if that would preclude the ability of
including BSD/GPL code in RFCs.  Source code in RFCs are useful.

/Simon

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