Re: ADMIN: Offtopic warning (Re: Outgoing section 5.5 and draft-josefsson (Re: San Diegomeetingslot))

[Harald Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no>]

todd glassey wrote:
> Harald - if you are saying that there is no possibility of reviewing any
> past decisions and their value or implications based on new legal
> requirements then how would anything in the IETF get changed.
>   
note - I have received advice that "offtopic" is not strictly true of 
the statement you made.
It is within the scope of what the IPR WG could possibly work on, but is 
not related to a current work item.

The steps necessary to change something through a working group are:
- Get agreement that whatever it is needs changing
- Get that agreement documented as a chartered work item of a WG
- Get WG agreement on what the change should be.

So far, your statement has no relevance to steps 2 and 3.

> My commentary stands.
>
> Todd Glassey
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harald Alvestrand" <harald at alvestrand.no>
> To: "todd glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <ipr-wg at ietf.org>; "'Steven M. Bellovin'" <smb at cs.columbia.edu>
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 AM
> Subject: ADMIN: Offtopic warning (Re: Outgoing section 5.5 and
> draft-josefsson (Re: San Diegomeetingslot))
>
>
>   
> > todd glassey wrote:
> >     
> > > > Viral licenses should be treated the way any other license is treated
> > > > by the IETF - the owner of the material can declare the licensing
> > > > terms on the IETF's IPR page, and the WG can decide whether to accept
> > > > the licensing terms in the draft.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         
> > > No It CAN NOT. The IETF cannot refuse any IP submission without creating
> > >       
> a
>   
> > > tortuous interferrance claim for the Submitter against the IETF and
> > >       
> those
>   
> > > WG/AD/IESG members that decided not to 'allow that entity's work to be
> > > standardized'
> > >
> > >       
> > Todd,
> >
> > you are raising an off-topic issue again.
> >
> > The IETF has decided a long time ago that it has the right to refuse to
> > make a contribution a standard. RFC 3978 section 3.5:
> >
> > 3.5.  No Duty to Publish
> >
> >    The Contributor, and each named co-Contributor, acknowledges that the
> >    IETF has no duty to publish or otherwise use or disseminate any
> >    Contribution.
> >
> > This is not a current discussion item within this working group's
> > charter, and is therefore offtopic for this mailing list. Please take it
> > elsewhere.
> >
> >                       Harald Alvestrand, as WG chair
> >
> >     
>
>
>   


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