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Re: Outgoing section 5.5 and draft-josefsson (Re: San Diego meeting slot)



Yes, whatever rights we plan to grant for outbound have to be granted to us on the inbound side.

If we stick with the rough consensus that all code may be used and modified in any fashion, than anyone including code in an IETF contribution has to grant us the right to do that, including the ability to let others do that.

And yes, that may mean that some existing code can not appear in RFCs. If doing this in the sensible fashion means that 1 or 2 RFCs per thousand face some production obstacle, but everyone knows clearly what they can do, and we don't need to argue about whether specific uses are permitted, then that is a (very) good trade off.

Yours,
Joel M. Halpern

At 09:54 AM 10/6/2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
(Sorry, this gets into inbound rights but that seems to be our
problem here.) I'm beginning to wonder if we shouldn't be rather
hard headed and say to authors:

Code embedded in IETF Contributions MUST NOT be subject to
any conditions that prevent the IETF from granting unrestricted
rights to use, republish or modify it. It is the Contributor's
responsibility to ensure that contributed code is free
of such restrictions.

IMHO if someone puts the cart before the horse by putting
code under an irrevocable license before contributing it
to the IETF, they should build their own clean room and rewrite
the code for us.

After the code has already become an IETF Contribution, a copy
of it could be put under any license; we wouldn't care.

    Brian

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