Re: Patent licenses (was: IETF Trust FAQ)

["todd glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Ellermann" <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de>
To: <ipr-wg at ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:26 AM
Subject: Patent licenses (was: IETF Trust FAQ)


> Lawrence Rosen wrote:
>
> > I am absolutely opposed to any IETF IP policy that results in industry
> > standards that have fundamental patent impediments to their
> > implementation in open source
> > --and for that matter in proprietary
> > --software. Jorge just confirmed this to the group, in case anyone
> > doubts that our current policy has this effect.
>
> +1
>
> Fortunately any "patented algorithm" is AFAIK legally still nonsense in
> my part of the world.  And I've no problem with a license saying "feel
> free to use this unless you threaten us with some of your patent
> claims".

The problem is Frank that it isnt in this part of the world and the IETF has 
to serve this country as well... considering it was created and financed 
here.

> That's BTW the main reason why I pushed for something in the direction
> of "share alike".  I hate "embrace, extend, and extinguish" strategies
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend%2C_and_extinguish>, and
> if folks try it anyway they should at least be forced to do this in the
> IETF with whatever it takes them to get the required "No Objection" by
> the IESG and the IAB.

Gee Frank - How is the IETF's process any different?

> Frank
>
>
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