Non-WG lists (Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipr-3978-incoming-02.txt)

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no>]

--On 21. oktober 2007 18:19 +0200 Frank Ellermann 
<nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de> wrote:

> > Title : Rights Contributors provide to the IETF Trust
> > Author(s) : S. Bradner, J. Contreras
> > Filename : draft-ietf-ipr-3978-incoming-02.txt
>
> In 1a (contributions) the definition includes:
>
> | any IETF mailing list, including the IETF list itself,
> | any working group or design team list, or any other
> | list functioning under IETF auspices,
>
> What exactly does that mean wrt "other lists" and their
> owners / moderators ?  For examples see the list of
> other lists <https://datatracker.ietf.org/list/nonwg/>

That list is intended to act exactly as a list of such lists.

(specific, listed examples deleted).

> The reason I ask is that some SPF folks were rather
> skeptical when I proposed to submit "spf-discuss" to
> the list of "other lists".
>
> I _think_ that the IPR business for articles in the
> "other lists" is in essence limited to "there's at
> least one public archive" and "if you post a really
> good idea it might be adopted in an IETF standard
> later, even if you don't like how that's done."

Nope, on both counts.
There is no requirement for a public archive, but any posting to any of 
those lists is a "contribution" under RFC 3978 rules, which means that IF 
someone uses something posted there in the IETF process, he can assume that 
the original poster has given permission to do so.

> Is that all, or do I miss something important ?  And
> actually for articles posted on IETF lists incl. the
> "other lists" the I-D doesn't state anything new, or
> does it ?

It's not intended to say anything new in that area, no.

        Harald


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