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Re: Stupid question: How are "the rights to represent theSponsor"as codified in BCP78 and BCP79...


----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Armstrong" <don at donarmstrong.com>
To: <ipr-wg at ietf.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Stupid question: How are "the rights to represent theSponsor"as codified in BCP78 and BCP79...


On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, TS Glassey wrote: 
I agree Don - What I am thinking is that at the very minimum ALL
submissions which come in from an SMTP type submission channel need
to be digitally signed with a publicly resolvable C.A. That way at
least the IETF could claim that it relied on 'a strong eSign
control' to assure proper paperless-transfer of the IP rights.


This doesn't really gain us anything, as getting a CA and signing a
submission is trivial.

The IETF itself is really looking for something that can demonstrate that its processes meet the same requirements that other IP transfer processes use, and I agree that for that ultimately paper is probably better, but assuming that the IETF is unwilling to go to that expense, then a digital paperless process which is strong and has enough steps to show that there was some informed consent in participating with the process itself.

The important thing is that the copyright
holders of works that are submitted for inclusion in IETF processes
properly licence the IETF.

Ultimately of course. But more than that, for an operational perspective at the Editor's Desk I think what we are looking to prove is that there is a mechanism that allows the IETF to document that it did proper process when accepting 'the assertion of the submitter' as to that they "have those IP rights" and can assign the republication-standards rights to the IETF with the submission.

License forms signed by the submitter and
employer if applicable are the general method of doing this that I've
seen.[1]


Agreed.



Don Armstrong

1: It's what almost every scientific journal as well as what the FSF
requires; signing and faxing in (or attaching a signed, scanned pdf
of) a form isn't terribly difficult, and takes us to the point of
being ok, short of actual willfull misrepresentation of the nature of
the submitted work.
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