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#1539: incoming 5.1, 5.3: requires participation of organizations



I have created #1539 to track this issue.

Simon Josefsson wrote:
"Frank Ellermann" <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de> writes:

Brian E Carpenter wrote:

The IETF works with individual contributors, full stop.
Good, maybe the BCP 78 legalese about some contributors "representing an organization" can be removed or trimmed
or clarified.

I share this concern, and this messages uses the ISSUE-protocol to register this as a last call comment (the WGLC lasts until Dec 17 if I'm not mistaken).

The most critical text appears to be in section 5.3:

   To the extent that a Contribution or any portion thereof is protected
   by copyright or other rights of authorship, the Contributor, and each
   named co-Contributor, and the organization he or she represents or is
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   sponsored by (if any) grant a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive,
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   royalty-free, world-wide sublicensable right and license to the IETF
   Trust under all such copyrights and other rights in the Contribution:

This text appear to me to ask that a Contributor's organization (if any)
directly grant rights to the IETF.

If Brian is correct and the IETF do not work with organizations
directly, but only individual contributors, the legal text that requires
organizations to grant rights to the IETF appears wrong to me.

Section 5.1 also contains:

   By submission of a Contribution, each person actually submitting the
   Contribution, and each named co-Contributor, is deemed to have read
   and understood the rules and requirements set forth in this document.
   Each Contributor is deemed, by the act of submitting a Contribution,
   to enter into a legally-binding agreement to comply with the terms
   and conditions set forth in this document, on his or her own behalf
   and on behalf of the organization the Contributor represents or is
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   sponsored by (if any), when submitting the Contribution.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My suggestion solution is to rephrase the text to say that Contributors
assure that they have the permission of the organization they represent
to share the contribution with the IETF.  This would be consistent with
only working with individuals rather than external organizations.

/Simon

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