Re: IESG evaluation of our documents, current version

["TS Glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>]

No Russ, since there is no definition of VETTING or what CONSENSUS in the 
INDUSTRY consists of, this is NOT what is happening. The process is 
currently used in clique-mode to create IP initiatives and advance them 
while stopping or slowing others down.

Reality is reality Russ. :-)

Todd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russ Housley" <housley at vigilsec.com>
To: "TS Glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>
Cc: <iesg at ietf.org>; <ipr-wg at ietf.org>; <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: IESG evaluation of our documents, current version


> Todd:
>
> > > My messages on this thread have nothing to do with any comments you may 
> > > have raised.  I was responding to concerns raised by Cullen, who does not 
> > > want the RFC published until the IETF Trust has made their posting that 
> > > will be referenced by the RFC.
> >
> > > Either Ed or I can confirm that the IETF Trust posting has occurred to 
> > > the RFC Editor when they believe the document is otherwise read to be 
> > > published as an RFC.
> >
> > Uh... "believe"? - When the Editors publishes something they need to more 
> > than believe that something is ready. They need to be capable of 
> > demonstrating to anyone's concern that this is true, including US Courts.
>
> The IETF Standards process is being used to demonstrate rough consensus 
> for the document content.
>
> Russ
>
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