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Re: Jorge - Answer these question - or face litigation and the ethics committee of your licensing bar assoc's

Todd,

While I'm not an attorney (yet), hopefully my answers can satisfy you to
some extent. Again, if you want nuanced legal analysis, get a lawyer.

Here are the questions as they were asked...
>
> 1)  YES OR NO?:   Under certain circumstances could the publication of IETF
> documents prevent Japanese Patent's from being granted for a Prior Art
> violations?  YES or NO?:
>

I'm afraid Japanese patent law is an area that I simply cannot giFrom ipr-wg-bounces at ietf.org  Wed Jul 23 20:25:39 2008
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Todd,

While I'm not an attorney (yet), hopefully my answers can satisfy you to some extent. Again, if you want nuanced legal analysis, get a lawyer.

Here are the questions as they were asked...

1)  YES OR NO?:   Under certain circumstances could the publication of IETF documents prevent Japanese Patent's from being granted for a Prior Art violations?  YES or NO?:

I'm afraid Japanese patent law is an area that I simply cannot give you a competent answer on with any degree of certainty. Like I said in the other thread, if it is a first to file jurisdiction (without any substantial modifications), the patent applicant would always win unless the IETF somehow decided to file a patent in Japan earlier. If it is a first to discover jurisdiction, as long as you can prove you came up with the idea first and don't fall afoul of any of the statutory bars, the patent is yours.

  2)  YES OR NO?:  Does the publication of IETF documents trigger the one year time-clocks on registering materials described in those documents for US patent protection? i.e. could the IETF's publication of documents interact with or proscribe US and foreign patent filings in some instances? YES or NO?:

In the U.S., certainly. Publication starts the time clock for the 35 U.S.C. § 102(b) statutory bar.

  3) YES or NO?:  Does the IETF's "respect of other's IP's" per the description of BCP78 ss 3.1 include US and Foreign patents?  YES or NO?:

You're quoting selectively from the BCP. The policy is balancing interests, not an paean to IP holders.

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C.T. Aiken
 

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