Re: in6_pktinfo etc still missing in POSIX specs
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Re: in6_pktinfo etc still missing in POSIX specs
I'm not involved in this in detail, so I may be off base, but my
understanding is that the advanced API has not been picked up by Open
Group because its members didn't support doing so -- they just didn't
see a need to.
My own take is that standardization of the advanced API just isn't
compelling. When I did a survey in the past of what various vendors
had done with the advanced API, I found that none implemented it
completely. Rather, most implemented bits and pieces of it depending
on what applications needed the funcitonality (or just implemented
private versions for the applications that needed the
functionality). And since the functionality in the adnvanced API (by
definition) isn't needed accept by fairly exotic uFrom ipv6-bounces at ietf.org Tue Oct 14 09:24:04 2008
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To: Pekka Savola <pekkas at netcore.fi>
Subject: Re: in6_pktinfo etc still missing in POSIX specs
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Comments: In-reply-to Pekka Savola <pekkas at netcore.fi>
message dated "Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:47:13 +0300."
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:24:08 -0400
From: Thomas Narten <narten at us.ibm.com>
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I'm not involved in this in detail, so I may be off base, but my
understanding is that the advanced API has not been picked up by Open
Group because its members didn't support doing so -- they just didn't
see a need to.
My own take is that standardization of the advanced API just isn't
compelling. When I did a survey in the past of what various vendors
had done with the advanced API, I found that none implemented it
completely. Rather, most implemented bits and pieces of it depending
on what applications needed the funcitonality (or just implemented
private versions for the applications that needed the
functionality). And since the functionality in the adnvanced API (by
definition) isn't needed accept by fairly exotic usages, isages, it's hard to
make the arguement that it needs to be implemented for basic
interoperability.
Thomas
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t's hard to
make the arguement that it needs to be implemented for basic
interoperability.
Thomas
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