Re: [lisp] [ipdir] LISP WG: Loc/ID separation - not separate namespaces

Dino Farinacci <dino@cisco.com> Thu, 19 March 2009 01:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] [ipdir] LISP WG: Loc/ID separation - not separate namespaces
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> You wrote:
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>> Robin, you can have n namespaces with the same AFI value. RFC 2547  
>> VPNs
>> is an example of this. And there are plenty more examples as well.
>
> Maybe so, but this is nothing to do with LISP.

But that is how you'd implement an EID namespace that doesn't overlap  
with an RLOC namespace.

You could use, say 10.1.1.1 in both namespaces to mean two different  
things. That is, an address used as an endpoint TCP connection  
identifier and the other to number a CE/PE link from a PA-block on a  
CPE router.

Dino

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> I stand by my critique:
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>  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/lisp/current/msg00273.html
>  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/lisp/current/msg00288.html
>
>  - Robin