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[Ltru] Fw: Swiss german, spoken



On the issue of unwritten content.

‎Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis at jtcsv.com>
To: "IETF Languages Discussion" <ietf-languages at iana.org>; "Michael Everson"
<everson at evertype.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 14:45
Subject: Re: Swiss german, spoken


> I quote your previous message:
>
> >> Ys, but that is bollocks. Every language can be written.
>
> Being "unwritten" is not a property of a language per se, it is a property
> of an *instance* which would be tagged, such as an audio recording of the
"I
> have a Dream" speech, which does not contain written content. This is
> similar to other uses of script: when I tag text with Arab, I am not
saying
> that that language is always written in Arabic, just that the instance is.
>
> Thus the interpretation for "code for unwritten languages" -- which is not
> contravened by the text of ISO 15924 -- is that when tagging data, it is
> indicating an instance where the language happens to be unwritten. So
using
> en-Zxxx-US for the "I have a Dream" speech is perfectly reasonable.
>
> ‎Mark
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
> To: "IETF Languages Discussion" <ietf-languages at iana.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 10:03
> Subject: Re: Swiss german, spoken
>
>
> > At 09:40 -0700 2005-06-12, Mark Davis wrote:
> >
> > >so gsw-Zxxx could mean unwritten Swiss German, en-Zxxx unwritten
English,
> >
> > In what way is English an unwritten language? English is a written
> > language; application of Zxxx to it would, I think, be a misuse of
> > that tag. Zxxx is "code for unwritten languages". Not "code for
> > materials not written".
> >
> > Though it *is* a little odd that we have a code for languages in the
> > list of script codes.
> >
> > Swiss German, of course, is often written for various cultural purposes.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  * http://www.evertype.com
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