Yeah, so look at the list I sent back of John's notes and somebody opine whether I chose correctly. Reverting the semi-substantive changes is still easy at this point (I tend to agree that none of the changes are earth shattering, but do note that some of the items that I changed in the editor's copy represent normative looking text that might be better in a normative form, e.g. instructions to IANA in Section 5.1. Addison Addison P. Phillips Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group Internationalization is not a feature. It is an architecture. > -----Original Message----- > From: ltru-bounces at lists.ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at lists.ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Frank Ellermann > Sent: 2005?7?12? 15:32 > To: ltru at ietf.org > Subject: [Ltru] Re: Adding more 2119 keywords > > Randy Presuhn wrote: > > >| Imperatives of the type defined in this memo must be used > >| with care and sparingly. In particular, they MUST only be > >| used where it is actually required for interoperation or to > >| limit behavior which has potential for causing harm > > ACK, can't say this often enough. If a standard says "xyz are > letters", then it's unnecessary to replace it by "xyz NUST be > letters" for some imaginary normative effect. The standard is > normative without any 2119-keywords, unless it explicitly says > "informative" (examples etc.). > > > I suggest considering whether the value of making the change > > is worth the risk of the changes cumulatively necessitating > > a second last call. > > So far I thought that an "internal last call" is something like > a dress rehearsal, it's not really required, and it's also not > necessary to repeat it. > > Mark wrote in his reply: > | ask John to do his next review before last call ;-) > > Better we find any "bugs" now than somebody else later in the > real "last call". But IMO using _no_ 2119-keywords where they > are _not_ needed is no "bug", quite the contrary. > > BTW, in <http://mid.gmane.org/42D272D3.3060802 at zurich.ibm.com> > Brian mentioned the case of a draft standard (3596) obsoleting > BCP 49 (3152), apparently that's possible: > > <http://purl.net/net/rfc/3596> + <http://purl.net/net/rfc/3152> > > Bye, Frank > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru at lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru at lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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