Re: [Ltru] Proposed addition after introduction (was: Jersey JE andGuernsey GG Country Codes)

["Mark Davis" <mark.davis at jtcsv.com>]

Oppose. It would be bizarre for IANA to have a proclamation of its approach
to "sharing the cultural life of the Internet community" in an RFC.

‎Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn at mindspring.com>
To: <ltru at ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 00:10
Subject: [Ltru] Proposed addition after introduction (was: Jersey JE
andGuernsey GG Country Codes)


> Hi -
>
> I'd like to get a hum on this proposed addition.  Obviously it would need
some
> work on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and other editorial details.  I'm
just
> interested in finding out whether the WG supports adding something that
conveys
> the sense of the proposal.
>
> Please post to the ltru list whether you support or oppose the addition.
>
> Randy, ltru co-chair
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "r&d afrac" <rd at afrac.org>
> > To: "Debbie Garside" <debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk>; "'Debbie Garside'"
<debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk>; "'Peter Constable'"
> <petercon at microsoft.com>; <ltru at ietf.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Ltru] Jersey JE and Guernsey GG Country Codes
> >
>
> > At 23:44 12/07/2005, Debbie Garside wrote:
> > >So... are you telling me that I have to go back to Tony (Blair) and
tell him
> > >his letter won't be necessary...?  ;-)
> >
> > Debbie,
> > ad-hominem! If Tony wants to discuss his position on the Jersey and
> > Gernesey langtags, please have him joining this list.
> >
> > This may look as a troll. But it is not. It is a perfect example of the
> > inadequation of IETF to address issues which are beyond its scope.
> > Sometime, a langtag user will have a conflict between an IETF Internet
> > defined conception and legal definition of Her Gacious Majesty
Government.
> > And will lose time, money, credibility, etc. due to that. The Draft will
> > lose credibility. Hardly what the authors want.
> >
> > The Draft should start with the following warning (just after the
> > Introduction):
> >
> > "The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not an
> > appropriate correlation between a language, a script, a country and
other
> > cultural or human language elements as they may appear necessary. The
> > selection of ISO 639 to obtain a language/script/country correlating
table
> > and rules was made with the knowldge that ISO has procedures to
determine
> > which resulting language tags should be and should not be on such a
list.
> > It happens that ISO 639 does not provide yet such a list. So, however
the
> > IANA is not in the business of deciding if this is a lack ISO still has
to
> > address or if it is a deliberated authoritative decision, the IANA
intends
> > to extend the possibilities offered to Internet protocols and
applications
> > users by RFC 3066. This Memo describes under which technical terms this
may
> > be done, notwithstanding the national or international legal limitations
> > which may be imposed elsewhere to the users."
> >
> > "The IANA adheres to the language equal opportunity declaration:
> >
> > "The purpose of technology isn't to insure that everybody should have an
> > equal opportunity whatever his language, its purpose is to allow this
goal.
> >
> > "This document's aim is to allow everyone to freely share the cultural
life
> > of the Internet community, to enjoy using its solutions on an equal
> > linguistic, cultural, technical, economical and commercial basis, and to
> > share into the benefits of the technology and its advancements without
> > distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion,
> > political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth
or
> > other status and education. Therefore the goal is to build a common
> > technical standard for all people and all nations to be used or embedded
in
> > any technical solution, without any limitation resulting from the
script,
> > the language, the referent or the context of their technical
environment.
> >
> > "Taking into account the granular nature and the diversity of the
world's
> > digital ecosystem as well as the requirements of its technical
convergence,
> > the authors of this technical memorandum strongly advocate its free,
secure
> > and stable implementation to serve the rights and freedoms of its users
at
> > an international, national and personal level, in the respect of
sovereign
> > laws and jurisdiction of each State, of the empowerment of local
cultures,
> > and of its intergovernance by subsidiarity in any of the public or
private,
> > community or individual contexts. "
> >
> > (text to be revised along with its review by the members of the global
> > on-line community in preparation of the Tunis declaration)
> >
> > jfc
> ...
>
>
>
>
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