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Re: [Ltru] Re: script tag for IPA



Dear Addison,
>
> The proper "repair" to this issue is to fix ISO 15924. Multiple script
> subtags would be very difficult for users to understand and use
> consistently. And we'd have to deal with canonical ordering rules,
> prefix checking, and all sorts of other nastiness---all to figure out
> which Latin transcription was used? Bah.

The registrar of ISO 15924 has indicated that he has no intention of
ever giving IPA a script code and that it is a variant of Latn. Perhaps
you can get him to change his mind, but I doubt it. So where does that
leave me? How do I tag text in the IPA script that can be in any
language? You are asking me to live between a rock and a hard place.

As Mark has stated, we need something to indicate that a script variant
is more significant than a region. For example, please prioritise the
aspects of "UK Glaswegian English written in IPA" in terms of the
components that have the most significance on the text and you will find
that UK comes last and Glaswegian second to last. But if IPA is marked
by an extension, it will come last.

I estimate that there are probably in the order of 10 scripts needing on
average 2-3 variants each. But that depends on what we see as being a
script variant.

In discussions with the ISO 15924 registrar on this, he seemed open to
the idea of extending the private use script code space. In addition, I
agree that since a script variant (in my 4 character scheme) would
always occur after a real script, there is no need to worry about
codespace overlap.
>
> Not to mention: if script variations aren't registered in 15924, where
> will they come from? What rules will be applied to their registration?
> Why does anyone think ietf-languages will be a good arbiter of said
> variations?

ISO 15924 hasn't scored too highly for us so far. Addressing what a
script variant really is will need some discussion, of course.

Remember that ISO 15924 isn't our standard to control. It's coming from
TC46.

In the meantime, please send me the form to request 7000 language
variants or extensions (since both are registered by language).

I would encourage folks to think about how the language tag can be made
productive. If every possible language tag in effect has to be
registered, it will push many tags underground and the x- extension
space will become far more popular than we might want it to be. I, for
example, have to deal with emerging writing systems and storing data in
them for archival purposes long before such writing systems are well
established (in some cases), if every such instance needs to be
registered RFC4646 will be seen as a bottle kneck to be worked around
rather than in collaboration with.

Yours,
Martin


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