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[Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ?



Doug Ewell wrote:
 
> We don't have any justification for picking the code elements
> we like from any ISO standard and discarding the others.

It's our duty to stop it if it's not acceptable as IANA registry.
An old draft of what's now RFC 4589 was in a questionable state,
it was fixed after the IETF Last Call.

> One of my personal "least favorites" in ISO 639-3 is Yinglish
> ("yib"), which is really just a smattering of Yiddish-based and
> -inspired words embedded in normal English.

Sometimes he-who-must-not-be-named is right with his fears, there
is a fatal trend to register anything remotely related to English,
from Boont over yib and Shavian up to proposals to "unicode" some
inverted letters only because they are used in Finnegans Wake.

> The description in Ethnologue calls it "a variety of English
> influenced by Yiddish (lexically, particularly, but also
> grammatically and phonetically)"

Maybe it is useful as some kind of mixed language.  Over here we
have DEnglish (all kinds of bad en as spoken + written in D/A/CH,
and more important all kinds of de abusing random English words 
to emulate some global touch, "handy" for "cell phone", and tons
of similar inventions).  About a century ago they did the same
with French words.

More likely yib is a similar case as "Kanak Sprak", a mixture of
de, en, and tr.  There are certainly more lyrics, literature, and
videos in "Kanaksprak" than the 30 words "orq".

> Orcish and its 30 words do give me renewed hope for Unilingua
> and its 187-page textbook:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/en/c/c7/Unilingua.pdf

I found <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unilingua/Print_version> -
and an article about the 56 words of Lapine in "Watership down".
That's all fascinating, but not the stuff for language subtags.

Frank



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