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Re: [Ltru] Re: Liaison with TC37/SC2



Frank Ellermann scripsit:

> Debbie Garside wrote:
> 
> > If only it were that simple.
> 
> Okay, apparently I'm alone with the idea that this is only
> about LTRU, which will be history soon if all goes well.
> 
> Above the WG level it's either the applications area, or
> the complete IETF.  

What we have here is a failure to communicate.  Debbie is speaking of ISO
WGs, not IETF WGs.  ISO WGs are fairly permanent (they don't expire unless
reaped by the parent SubCommittee), and do most of their business in FTF
meetings a few times a year (hence the relevance of travel).  (The fact
that liaisons are accredited to the parent SC is a technicality.)

The reason for this is that ISO standards are reviewed every five years
to see whether they should be approved as-is, replaced, declared stable,
or made obsolete.  RFCs on the other hand are always stable by default
and are replaced only by explicit action; consequently, IETF WGs are
rather transient.

So on the level of standardization work, it's hard for the IETF and
ISO to liaise, because there is no permanent entity on the IETF side
concerned with language tags.  On the level of adding code elements
to existing standards, the problem is even worse, because the group of
people on ietf-languages isn't even part of the IETF as such, so there
is nothing for the 639/RA-JAC to liaise with.

To make things worse, IETF WGs operate openly and by individuals, ISO
WGs confidentially and by countries.  It doesn't do Doug that much good
to know what's coming down in the ISO WG if he can't talk about it here.

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	--Tom Stoppard parodying Oscar Wilde

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