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Re: [Ltru] "X" vs. 'X (macrolanguage)"



Fair enough; I'm not trying to argue with you on this, just trying to get the picture straight in my own mind. And since there are only a small number of language names (4) that need to be distinguished with " (macrolanguage)" and " (individual language)", it is really not a big deal; I guess we can just leave that issue to UI designers to deal with.

Mark

On Dec 8, 2007 1:36 PM, Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft.com> wrote:

#4 is *not* empty; but your classifications are too simplistic for the actual data. In particular, I consider the assumption that if there is a genetic relationship and one is in 639-2 that therefore it should be a macrolanguage to be invalid.

 

Potential cases of languages

-          with the same

-          genetically related

-          one is in 639-2 but is not a macrolanguage encompassing the other(s)

 

include the following (item in 639-2 listed first):

 

bas vs. bzw: These are two Niger-Congo languages separated at a genetic level that encompasses 961 languages.

 

bem vs. bey: These are two Bantoid languages separated at a genetic level that encompasses 513 languages.

 

fan vs. fak: These are two Bantoid languages separated at a genetic level that encompasses 659 languages

 

luo vs. luw: luw is not yet classified, so this pair may or may not fit the criteria. They are not regionally contiguous. Also, luw is all but extinct (known speaker population = 1), so there's likely no body of documents, and hence no useful reason to consider it encompassed by luo.

 

Now, in the first three cases, geographic proximity might provide a basis to say that a macrolanguage is appropriate in spite of the genetic distance. But because of the distance it's really a stretch to suppose that anyone would find it useful to tag documents from the two varieties the same.

 

 

Peter

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