Re: [Ltru] Last open item

["Phillips, Addison" <addison at amazon.com>]

I think we should make a sensible change here. The BU/MM hypothesis (and the existence of actual cases such as CD/ZR with "advantageous dates"), suggests that we should:

1. Allow region subtags to become undeprecated, provided they are assigned their original meaning by ISO 3166. ISO 3166 is a special case because of the limited namespace. Other subtag types don't show this sort of mutation. I think the text required to do this will have to be carefully crafted, though. I have to get my editing environment back online before I propose some [the change in email address and footer are not an accident] :-).

2. Allow P-V to be modified. This follows from the idea that registry maintenance should include removing "preferred value chains".

I think these changes are minor and should be incorporated. I also think that a subtag being deprecated with no P-V should be considered unusual, although cases do exist (as when a territory splits into a number of regions, none of which claim the original identity---see "SU").

Addison

Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect -- Lab126 (Amazon)
Chair -- W3C Internationalization Core WG

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> John Cowan
> Sent: lundi 14 avril 2008 19:12
> To: Randy Presuhn
> Cc: LTRU Working Group
> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Last open item
>
> Randy Presuhn scripsit:
>
> > > Then we wind up with both the original tag and its temporary
> replacement
> > > marked deprecated.  That's undesirable.
> >
> > It would merely reflect what had happened in the source standards.
>
> All too "merely".    What, in such circumstances, would a naive reader
> of the registry conclude was the un-deprecated value, and by what
> process?
>
> > No, if the Preferred-Value in BU refers to MM, then the logical thing
> to
> > do is to *not* add a preferred-value to MM if it is ever deprecated
> in
> > favor of something that would, for purposes of language tagging,
> > identify the same thing.
>
> So then BU would be deprecated with a P-V of MM, and MM would be
> deprecated without a P-V, leading the user to conclude that there is no
> current value at all.
>
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