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Re: [Ltru] solving the chinese thing... lists



John Cowan 2008-05-10 20.15:
> Leif Halvard Silli scripsit:
>
> > So, the issue - the macrolanguage - seems indeed to exist, merely under 
> > - in some "abroad" circles - another name.
>
> There is a dialect continuum spoken in four different countries (with
> outliers elsewhere).
>
> There are also two separate standard languages, Serbian and Croatian,
> which merged for a while (in the sense that users of each agreed to
> accept the orthography and lexis of the other as also instances of their
> standard form) and have since separated again.
>
> There is an incipient third standard language, and a label for a fourth
> but no actual separate standard yet, perhaps not ever.
>   

Not sure what you mean by "third" and "fourth".

> Or as a Croat linguist put it to me back in the 1980s.  "I am a native
> speaker of Croatian, and therefore have a native command of Serbian
> as well."
>   

You forgot one, important, unifying thing, namely the special alphabet - 
or alphabets - which were crafted to unify the two - or more - "breeds" 
of these encompassed languages. The Serbian Cyrillic alphabet and its 
corresponding Croatian Latin alphabet, are the only two Latin and 
Cyrillic alphabets in use which are 100% interchangable - and created to 
be like that - except when it comes to sorting. (Though I have observed 
an - perhaps post-Yugoslavian - tendency to perform Cyrillic enumeration 
and sorting based on the Latin order values.)

Only the Serbocroatian languages share these alphabets. (The Macedonian 
Cyrillic alphabet differ a little from the Serbian one. And the 
Slovenian differs a little from the Croatian one.)

I have not heard that any of the Serbocroatian languages since 
Yugoslavia broke up have switched back to any "pre-Yugoslavian" alphabet 
or something.

When it comes to Chinese, then the more or less common script is one of 
the most important reasons, as I  understand it, for talking about 
macrolanguage. So where is the reason to view it otherwise with regard 
to Serbocroatian.
-- 
leif halvard silli
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