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Re: [Ltru] More on combination type/scope field



John Cowan wrote:

> This is all information direct from 639-3, so it's in our remit.

Yes, but I still don't think we should mirror it. We would have to mirror the explanations for the values in the RFC, track changes to the values, and otherwise encumber ourselves with various maintenance and explanatory details. The less we do in the registry by fiat, the more flexible we will be.

I have to admit to being at least a little leery of the (necessary and unavoidable) fluctuations that will come from any embrace of "splitter" (vs. "lumper") linguistic categorization schemes. There is no end to the ways that one can split up and categorize language. The less of the non-normative information we mirror, the easier the maintenance work and the less likely we will find ourseFrom ltru-bounces at ietf.org  Mon Jun  2 10:30:35 2008
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John Cowan wrote:

> This is all information direct from 639-3, so it's in our remit.

Yes, but I still don't think we should mirror it. We would have to mirror the explanations for the values in the RFC, track changes to the values, and otherwise encumber ourselves with various maintenance and explanatory details. The less we do in the registry by fiat, the more flexible we will be.

I have to admit to being at least a little leery of the (necessary and unavoidable) fluctuations that will come from any embrace of "splitter" (vs. "lumper") linguistic categorization schemes. There is no end to the ways that one can split up and categorize language. The less of the non-normative information we mirror, the easier the maintenance work and the less likely we will find ourselves emblves embroiled in long-winded and painful (yet ultimately meaningless) discussions on ietf-languages.

Addison

Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect -- Lab126

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.



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Addison

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