Re: [Ltru] 2.1: casing

Well, I find the flow really confusing, then:

A. Use the format in the registry. [That shows variations in casing.]

B. That format is all lowercase. [That clearly is not a valid statement, given what is in the registry.]

C. There are exceptions [Exceptions to what? Sorry, but I’m lost after the non-sequitor in B.]

Mark’s suggested wording (separate msg) makes things much clearer.

Peter

From: Phillips, Addison [mailto:addison at amazon.com]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:51 AM
To: Peter Constable; Mark Davis; John Cowan
Cc: LTRU Working Group
Subject: RE: [Ltru] 2.1: casing

It *IS* what we intend: all subtags are lowercase, except for the exceptions.

I disagree that we should make all alpha2 and alpha4 subtags follow the same pattern, although that is what the text says at present. I think it is weird to make extension/private use subtags have any case other than lowercase.

Addison

Addison Phillips

Globalization Architect -- Lab126

Internationalization is not a feature.

It is an architecture.

From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Constable
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:48 AM
To: Mark Davis; John Cowan
Cc: LTRU Working Group
Subject: Re: [Ltru] 2.1: casing

That helps clear up the last sentence. But I still see a problem with “In this format, all subtags… are in lowercase”, which doesn’t appear to be what is really intended.

Peter

From: mark.edward.davis at gmail.com [mailto:mark.edward.davis at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:35 AM
To: John Cowan
Cc: Peter Constable; LTRU Working Group
Subject: Re: [Ltru] 2.1: casing

+1 I think that'd be clearer wording.

Mark

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:29 AM, John Cowan <cowan at ccil.org> wrote:

Peter Constable scripsit:

> This paragraph doesn't make complete sense to me:
>
> ---------------------
> Although case distinctions do not carry meaning in language tags,
> consistent formatting and presentation of the tags will aid users. The
> format of the tags and subtags in the registry is RECOMMENDED. In
> this format, all subtags, including all those following singletons
> (that is, in extension or private-use sequences) are in lowercase. The
> exceptions to this are: all other non-initial two-letter subtags are
> uppercase and all other non-initial four-letter subtags are titlecase.

I think striking the two instances of "other" deals with the problem:
all subtags are lowercase, except for non-initial two-letter tags, which
are uppercase, and non-initial four-letter tags, which are titlecase.

(Come to think of it, that's probably a clearer wording; I hereby
propose it.)

Note that the "non-initial two-letter subtags need not be region subtags:
we write sgn-BE-FR, for example.

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