Re: [Ltru] Canonical variants

["Phillips, Addison" <addison at amazon.com>]

Hi,

I agree with getting this done. Soon.

I wish the co-chairs would help us resolve the big consensus issues ahead of a last call, if possible. We've had proposals galore. We need to achieve some closure on the approach and handling of extlangs in particular.

In practical terms, I will finish incorporating comments from the list as quickly as possible and complete a full review/edit of my own in order to submit draft-17 shortly (i.e. today or tomorrow). Following this, we should be able to close out any remaining issues.

Addison

Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect -- Lab126

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Peter Constable
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:07 AM
> To: Martin Duerst; LTRU Working Group
> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Canonical variants
>
> +1
>
> I submitted a bunch of mostly-editorial comments this week,
> although there were a couple of technical discussions that resulted
> (descriptions, canonicalization). I hadn't read through a draft in
> a long while, and I did that now because I wanted to get a handle
> on which parts of the document are at issue in resolving the open
> issues around extlang, canonicalization, deprecation and preferred-
> value. I see that as the last key issue, as far as I recall, and
> I'd like to see us settle that and wrap up. This month. There will
> always be things that could be improved, but we need to accept that
> 4646bis will not be perfect and get it out so that people can start
> using it. However we resolve that last key issue, it will be good
> enough to be usable -- maybe a little awkward for some of us at
> times, but still workable.
>
> Let's get this done. This month.
>
> I'm hoping Addison will have draft 17 complete over the weekend
> with revisions from this week's comments incorporated, and that we
> can close those issues and work through the last elephant next week.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of
> > Martin Duerst
> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:12 PM
> > To: Phillips, Addison; Doug Ewell; LTRU Working Group
> > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Canonical variants
> >
> > >> On Behalf Of Doug Ewell
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:40 PM
> >
> > >> But as I said, we are really stretching the limits of brass
> handle
> > >> polishing at this point.
> >
> > [chair hat on]
> > I agree that we should try to concentrate on our main issues.
> > Reading our charter at
> > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html,
> >
> > I see for example the following:
> > The working group will clarify text where necessary. It may also
> > make adjustments to the registration process and the form of the
> > registry if this is deemed appropriate based on ongoing
> registration
> > and operational experience. These adjustments and clarifications
> > are not expected to delay the progress of the work.
> >
> > Please note in particular "not expected to delay" and
> > "based on ongoing registration and operational experience".
> >
> > I suggest that if further operational experience after RFC
> 4646bis
> > shows that further tweaks may be needed, somebody can then
> propose
> > the creation of a new LTRU WG.
> >
> > Regards,    Martin.
> >
> > >> Look at the scenario we have to dream up
> > >> for
> > >> this to be a problem: two or more prefixless variants in a
> single
> > >> tag,
> > >> where the meanings of the two variants interact in such a way
> that
> > >> order
> > >> is important, AND we need to make sure a search engine or
> other
> > >> matching
> > >> engine can match this tag properly when taking BOTH prefixless
> > >> variants
> > >> into account.  It's almost like we're trying to make work for
> > >> ourselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > #-#-#  Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin
> University
> > #-#-#  http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp
> > mailto:duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp
> >
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