+1 -----Original Message----- From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of "Martin J. Dürst" Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:15 AM To: Phillips, Addison Cc: LTRU Working Group Subject: Re: [Ltru] Issue #59: replace RECOMMENDED language with MUST languagein 2.2.1 (Apps #12a) co-chair hat off. I would strongly prefer to leave it as is. From Randy's and Addison's messages, it seems that we need to go into wordsmithing details if we start to change something, and from the explanations, it doesn't seem worth the effort. Regards, Martin. On 2009/06/09 13:12, Phillips, Addison wrote: > I would prefer that we not replace a recommendation with normative "MUST". If we must make a change, it should favor informative language. The registration process exists to be used. Advising requesters that ISO 639RA is a more suitable target, at least initially, is fine, but should not pose a restriction on the registration process in cases where a rejection is difficult to obtain. > > I would propose instead: > > -- > At the time this document was created, there were no examples of > this kind of subtag and future registration of this type are > discouraged: primary languages ought to be registered with > ISO 639. Requests which have not been submitted to or which > have been rejected by ISO 639/RA-JAC will be closely > scrutinized by the Language Subtag Reviewer before they are > registered with IANA. > -- > > Addison Phillips > Globalization Architect -- Lab126 > > Internationalization is not a feature. > It is an architecture. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Randy Presuhn >> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:49 PM >> To: LTRU Working Group >> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Issue #59: replace RECOMMENDED language with >> MUST languagein 2.2.1 (Apps #12a) >> >> Hi - >> >>> From: "Alexey Melnikov"<alexey.melnikov at isode.com> >>> To: "LTRU Working Group"<ltru at ietf.org> >>> Cc: "Martin J. Dürst"<duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp>; "Randy Presuhn" >> <randy_presuhn at mindspring.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 1:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: Additional issues with 4646bis raised by an Apps >> Review Team review >> .... >>> 12). In Section 2.2.1: >>> >>>> 5. Any language subtags of 5 to 8 characters in length in >> the IANA >>>> registry were defined via the registration process in >> Section 3.5 >>>> and MAY be used to form the primary language subtag. An >> example >>>> of what such a registration might include: one of the >>>> grandfathered IANA registrations is "i-enochian". The >> subtag >>>> 'enochian' could be registered in the IANA registry as a >> primary >>>> language subtag (assuming that ISO 639 does not register >> this >>>> language first), making tags such as "enochian-AQ" and >> "enochian- >>>> Latn" valid. >>>> >>>> At the time this document was created, there were no >> examples of >>>> this kind of subtag and future registrations of this >> type are >>>> discouraged: primary languages are strongly RECOMMENDED >> for >>>> registration with ISO 639, >>> I suggest that the RECOMMENDED is changed to a MUST, i.e. an >> attempt to >>> register it with ISO 639 must be made. Even if the outcome might >> be >>> known, arguments given by ISO 639 might provide useful input to >> the >>> Language Subtag Expert. >>> >>>> and proposals rejected by ISO 639/ RA- >>>> JAC will be closely scrutinized by the Language Subtag >> Reviewer >>>> before they are registered with IANA. >> ... >> >> As a technical contributor, I can agree with this proposal, as long >> as the case >> of non-response or negative response is covered. >> >> Randy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ltru mailing list >> Ltru at ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru at ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru -- #-# Martin J. Dürst, Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University #-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru at ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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