I’d be OK with that wording.
Peter
From:
mark.edward.davis at gmail.com [mailto:mark.edward.davis at gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Davis
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:35 AM
To: Phillips, Addison
Cc: Peter Constable; "Martin J. Dürst"; Kent Karlsson; LTRU
Working Group
Subject: Re: [Ltru] Issue #61: Problem with MAY in 3.5 on Description
errata(Apps #13)
Although going in the right
direction, I don't think it quite hits the mark, since it is still talking
about "the community", which is not defined and has no other status
in the document. It also gives no sense of who is doing what. I have suggested
language below, plus the other formulations for comparison.
Mark:
The Description field MAY be modified, and is thus not guaranteed to be stable.
However, modifications are discouraged because of the negative impact on the
provisions in Section 3.4 (Stability of IANA Registry Entries). Therefore the
Language Subtag Reviewer SHOULD accept only modifications for errata corrections
or required clarifications of intent, and SHOULD NOT accept translations or
transcriptions of entries in the registry.
OLD
> > While the 'Description' field itself is not guaranteed
to be stable
> > and errata corrections MAY be undertaken from time to
time, attempts
> > to provide translations or transcriptions of entries in
the registry
> > itself will probably be frowned upon by the community or
rejected
> > outright, as changes of this nature have an impact on
the provisions
> > in Section 3.4.
>
Alexey:
> Suggested replacement for the paragraph:
>
> The 'Description' field itself is not guaranteed to be
> stable. Corrections (possibly as errata) and updates
are
> permitted with adequate justification. However,
addition
> of translations or transliterations are not considered
> sufficient justification for corrections or updates.
Peter:
The Description field MAY be modified. Modifications for errata corrections or
clarifications of intent might be considered acceptable by the community, but
attempts to provide translations or transcriptions of entries in the registry
itself will probably be frowned upon by the community or rejected outright, as
changes of this nature have an impact on the provisions in Section 3.4
(Stability of IANA Registry Entries). Note that, since modifications are
possible, the Description field is not guaranteed to be stable.
Mark
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:38, Phillips, Addison <addison at amazon.com> wrote:
Yes. I'm agreeable to that change.
Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect -- Lab126
Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Constable [mailto:petercon at microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:27 AM
> To: Phillips, Addison; "Martin J. Dürst"; Kent Karlsson
> Cc: LTRU Working Group
> Subject: RE: [Ltru] Issue #61: Problem with MAY in 3.5
on
> Description errata(Apps #13)
>
> In that case, might it make sense to consider the change I
> suggested?
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org
[mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Phillips, Addison
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:12 AM
> To: "Martin J. Dürst"; Kent Karlsson
> Cc: LTRU Working Group
> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Issue #61: Problem with MAY in 3.5 on
> Description errata(Apps #13)
>
> I oppose the change because I consider the comment a misreading.
> Perhaps the sentence should be split into several separate
> sentences in order to separate normative from informative. However,
> the MAY keyword is there specifically to allow errata corrections
> (a problem that was raised during the development of this document).
>
> Addison Phillips
> Globalization Architect -- Lab126
>
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ltru-bounces at ietf.org
[mailto:ltru-bounces at ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of "Martin J. Dürst"
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:02 AM
> > To: Kent Karlsson
> > Cc: LTRU Working Group
> > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Issue #61: Problem with MAY in 3.5 on
> > Description errata(Apps #13)
> >
> > [hats on]
> >
> > I currently have Kent, Randy, Peter, and myself down as against
> > changes
> > on this issue. There are also some eventuality proposals for new
> > text,
> > but these are currently not relevant. Please express your
> > preference
> > (and the reasons for it) if you haven't already done so. If you
> > have
> > expressed your opinion, but I haven't considered it, please also
> > say so.
> >
> > Unless somebody expresses a preference (and reason) for making a
> > change,
> > I'll declare consensus on this issue tomorrow my morning.
> >
> > Regards, Martin.
> >
> >
> > On 2009/06/10 1:54, Kent Karlsson wrote:
> > > I agree.
> > >
> > > /kent k
> > >
> > > Den 2009-06-09 18.35, skrev "Peter
> > Constable"<petercon at microsoft.com>:
> > >
> > >> I also don't think a change is necessary.
> > >>
> > >> I agree with Randy: this use of MAY is indicating an
optional
> > activity that
> > >> must be anticipated by implementations. I think the wording
> > could be better;
> > >> e.g. something along this line:
> > >>
> > >> "The Description field MAY be modified. Modifications
for
> errata
> > corrections
> > >> or clarifications of intent might be considered acceptable
by
> > the community,
> > >> but attempts to provide translations or transcriptions of
> > entries in the
> > >> registry itself will probably be frowned upon by the
community
> > or rejected
> > >> outright, as changes of this nature have an impact on the
> > provisions in
> > >> Section 3.4 (Stability of IANA Registry Entries). Note that,
> > since
> > >> modifications are possible, the Description field is not
> > guaranteed to be
> > >> stable."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A change to the text I've given here would be editorial, not
> > technical, in
> > >> nature. I don't consider it necessary or highly important,
but
> > would be open
> > >> to that change should the editors be so inclined.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >
> > >
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