Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contact mapping
"Tyler Parkin" <tyler@foxfam.com> Fri, 05 February 2010 13:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contact mapping
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New to the list so if I'm missing something, sorry about that. If I understand correctly, the assertion is that with draft-roach-martini-gin-00/imlicit reg, the PBX sends a single AoR to the SSP which (because of it's provisioning) automatically activates all the associated records in it's location database and just replies to the PBX with a generic ();bnc to indicate success. Provisioning aside, I tend to agree that the PBX needs to be informed of which numbers the SSP considers to be implicitly registered for that AoR. I'd hate to lose functionality by moving to implicit/bulk reg. For example, if I register 100 numbers individually and 10 of them fail, then I stop subsequent subscribes/notifies for those numbers and, in the case of some PBX's, even present to the end user that their line isn't working. Provisioning disconnects happen all the time between PBX's and SSP's as a result of MACD's. I'm not proposing MARTINI resolve procedural issues, but a lack of two way acknowledgement of which numbers both parties consider active is a loss of functionality. I realize draft-roach-martini-gin-00 suggests a NOTIFY request to communicate status. To me there's a difference between a negative/failed registration state vs. relying on a PBX to interrogate the SSP after the fact. Regards, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Willis" <dean.willis@softarmor.com> To: "Jack Burton" <jsburton@cablevision.com> Cc: <martini@ietf.org> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contact mapping > > On Feb 2, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Jack Burton wrote: > >> How does the PBX learn its outbound numbers and DIDs when it registers? >> It needs to know this for more than just registration. I am not >> counting on registration as a configuration tool, just as a way to >> authenticate and identify the IP-PBX to the SSP. >> > > The PBX does NOT learn its numbers through registration. It has to know > them already so it can register them and so the SSP knows what IP address > and port to send calls to. The question of "How does the PBX learn its > numbers" is entirely outside the current scope of MARTINI. > > -- > Dean > > _______________________________________________ > martini mailing list > martini@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/martini
- [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contact ma… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Dean Willis
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Doug Sauder
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Jack Burton
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Chris Gatch
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Jack Burton
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Doug Sauder
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Jack Burton
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Chris Gatch
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Dean Willis
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Dean Willis
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Dean Willis
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Elwell, John
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Tyler Parkin
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Tyler Parkin
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Richard Shockey
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Adam Roach
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [martini] Implications of multiple AOR/contac… Tyler Parkin