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RE: [Megaco] Cancel Service Change (method=Graceful) mechanism




Repeating the mail.
Didn't see it on the list...
---------------------- Forwarded by Kapil Nayar/HSS on 02/04/2003 04:01 PM
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Kapil Nayar
02/04/2003 10:52 AM

To:   "Kevin Boyle" <kboyle@nortelnetworks.com>
cc:   megaco@ietf.org

Subject:  RE: [Megaco] Cancel Service Change (method=Graceful) mechanism
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Hi Kevin

Thanks for your reply...
But, as per H.248.8 the definition of Service Change reason "WarmBoot" is:

"This  indicates  that  the  entity  indicated  with  the  TerminationID  is  in
ServiceState  "In-Service",  and  that it has gone through a start, or recovery,
action.  All  transactions  in process may be lost, but otherwise all states are
preserved on the termination."

with a special comment: "This reason code only applies for TerminationID root"
The protocol defines the usage of "WarmBoot" only for root termination.

Alternatives?

thanks,
-kapil



"Kevin Boyle" <kboyle@nortelnetworks.com> on 02/04/2003 12:50:20 AM

To:   Kapil Nayar/HSS@HSS, megaco@ietf.org
cc:

Subject:  RE: [Megaco] Cancel Service Change (method=Graceful) mechanism




Comments inline. [KJBII]

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: knayar@hss.hns.com [mailto:knayar@hss.hns.com]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:19 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Cancel Service Change (method=Graceful) mechanism




Hi

It seems the protocol doesnot define any procedure for cancelling an earlier
Service Change (method=Graceful) on a non-root termination.

Taking a practical case:
MG sends a Service Change (method=Graceful) on a termination with delay= 2
hours. After 1 hour, MG realizes that it doesn't want to put the termination
out-of-service (after remaining 1 hour) as was earlier intended. How to
inform the MGC of the new intentions - cancel graceful..? Sending Service
Change (method =Restart) would mean that termination just came InService and
doesnot have any active descriptors, whereas this is not the case.

[KJBII] Why can't you use SC Restart?  The Warm Boot SC Reason indicates
that there was NO loss of state.

Solution:
MG sends Service Change (method = Graceful) delay =2 hours to inform MGC
only about the intentions. MG sends Service Change (method = Forced) when
the termination actually goes out-of-service after 2 hours. This ensures
that if Service Change (method = Forced) never came, the intentions of MG
never got materialised.

[KJBII] Ick.  So we will be required to send TWO SCs instead of one if we
use SC Graceful?  I really don't like that idea.

Does any body have an alternative solution? Please suggest.

thanks,
kapil nayar
www.hssworld.com


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Title: RE: [Megaco] Cancel Service Change (method=Graceful) mechanism

Comments inline. [KJBII]

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: knayar@hss.hns.com [mailto:knayar@hss.hns.com]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:19 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Cancel Service Change (method=Graceful) mechanism




Hi

It seems the protocol doesnot define any procedure for cancelling an earlier Service Change (method=Graceful) on a non-root termination.

Taking a practical case:
MG sends a Service Change (method=Graceful) on a termination with delay= 2 hours. After 1 hour, MG realizes that it doesn't want to put the termination out-of-service (after remaining 1 hour) as was earlier intended. How to inform the MGC of the new intentions - cancel graceful..? Sending Service Change (method =Restart) would mean that termination just came InService and doesnot have any active descriptors, whereas this is not the case.

[KJBII] Why can't you use SC Restart?  The Warm Boot SC Reason indicates that there was NO loss of state.

Solution:
MG sends Service Change (method = Graceful) delay =2 hours to inform MGC only about the intentions. MG sends Service Change (method = Forced) when the termination actually goes out-of-service after 2 hours. This ensures that if Service Change (method = Forced) never came, the intentions of MG never got materialised.

[KJBII] Ick.  So we will be required to send TWO SCs instead of one if we use SC Graceful?  I really don't like that idea.

Does any body have an alternative solution? Please suggest.

thanks,
kapil nayar
www.hssworld.com


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