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Re: [MEXT] using MR-HA tunnel vs. combining BU



Ryuji Wakikawa wrote:

On 2008/12/11, at 17:36, Romain KUNTZ wrote:

Hi Ryuji,

On 2008/12/11, at 17:26, Ryuji Wakikawa wrote:
For this purpose, the mobile router needs to act as a RFC3775 compliant mobile host before starting DHCP-PD. Why? If there is
no prefix, the mobile router cannot sends a NEMO-BU (i.e. R-flag
set) to its Home Agent. If there is no valid prefix for the
mobile router, HA returns BA with "Invalid Prefix" status value
which is treated as the fatal error in RFC3963.

I'd say the MR still sends a BU with the R-flag set and without the
 MNP option, which will be considered as registration in Implicit
mode by the HA.

Implicit mode requires some mapping between a mobile network prefix
and a mobile router.

For clarification: yes the Implicit mode requires a mapping between the
Mobile Network Prefix and the Home Address of the Mobile Router.  This
mapping exists already in the routing table of (at least) the HA,
otherwise HA can't reach the MR when MR at home.

It is not a mapping that should be found or created, it exists already.

Alex


Implicit:

In this mode, the Mobile Router does not include a Mobile Network
Prefix Option in the Binding Update.  The Home Agent can use any
mechanism (not defined in this document) to determine the Mobile
Network Prefix(es) owned by the Mobile Router and to set up
forwarding for the Mobile Network.  One example would be manual
configuration at the Home Agent mapping the Mobile Router's Home
Address to the information required for setting up forwarding for the
Mobile Network.


In RFC3963, we didn't consider a MR who doesn't  have any mobile
network prefix sends BU with R-flag set. In implicit mode, if there
is no  prefix for the MR, HA will reject the BU.

regards, ryuji




Cheers, romain



On 2008/12/11, at 10:50, Julien Laganier wrote:

We had this discussion for a long time abd it has concluded
some time ago already: WG consensus is to use DHCP PD.

(w/o questioning the value of optimizing RTTs for a procedure
which isn't in a critical path, e.g., handover)

--julien

On Thursday 11 December 2008, Yungui Wang wrote:
Hello

Here is one comment about using MR-HA tunnel for DHCP-PD.

In this draft, the MR registration processing needs 3 round
trip between MR and HA. i. BU to HA; (getting and binding
MR_HoA) ii. DHCPv6 message over MR-HA tunnel. (getting MNP) iii. BU to HA; (binding MNP) While, if PD is combined within
BU, it is only 1 round trip.

From implementation of viewpoint, the later seems well done
prior of the former. Maybe I have lost something, can anyone
tell me the story why we gave up the latter in the new
version? Thanks.

B.R. Yungui


----- Original Message ----- From: marcelo bagnulo braun To:
mext ; Julien Laganier ; Ralph Droms Sent: Tuesday, November
04, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: [MEXT] WGLC for
draft-ietf-mext-nemo-pd-01.txt


Hi,

We now start the WGLC for:

DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation for NEMO draft-ietf-mext-nemo-pd-01.txt

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mext-nemo-pd-01.txt



Please send comments about the draft till the November 19.

Regards, Julien and marcelo


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