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Re: [MEXT] Binding Revocation for IPv6 Mobility Supports NEMOusecase



Hi Vijay,

 See inline!

BR

Desire

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vijay Devarapalli [mailto:vijay at wichorus.com] 
> Sent: December 15, 2008 9:20 PM
> To: Ahmad Muhanna; Desire Oulai; mext at ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [MEXT] Binding Revocation for IPv6 Mobility 
> Supports NEMOusecase
> 
> Hi Ahmad and others,
> 
> Its not clear what would cause the home agent to stop 
> forwarding for a particular mobile network prefix and revoke 
> that prefix using a BRI message. It can done, but is it 
> really required?
[Desire]: An example could be that the HA want to assign an unused MNP
to another MR. Another possibility is that the HA want to stop serving
as a NEMO HA for the MR without stopping normal MIPv6 services for the
MR. In this case, the HA can revoke all the MNPs. 
> 
> If the mobile network prefix is assigned to the mobile router 
> using binding acknowledgement, then I can see the BRI message 
> being used to revoke a particular prefix. But if DHCP prefix 
> delegation is used for assigning the prefixes, does it make 
> sense to the BRI message for revoking a prefix?
[Desire]: I agree that using BRI for MNP revocation is more evident when
the MNP is assigned using BAck. However, there could be a case where
DHCP is used but the selected HA is not the DHCP server or delegating
router in case of PD. In this scenario, the HA can send the BRI to
revoke the MNP then the MN can start DHCP operation to release the
prefix. 
> 
> Vijay  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mext-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:mext-bounces at ietf.org] 
> On Behalf 
> > Of Ahmad Muhanna
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:23 PM
> > To: Desire Oulai; mext at ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [MEXT] Binding Revocation for IPv6 Mobility Supports 
> > NEMOusecase
> > 
> > Hi Desire,
> >  
> > Added a relative subject.
> >  
> > I guess the usecase is clear and it makes sense to me. 
> > We can add some text similar to yours to capture this functionality 
> > under the HA and MN operations after the conclusion of the WGLC..
> >  
> > BTW: Is there anyone who thinks that we should not add this usecase?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ahmad
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > 	From: Desire Oulai [mailto:desire.oulai at ericsson.com] 
> > 	Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:46 PM
> > 	To: mext at ietf.org
> > 	Cc: Muhanna, Ahmad (RICH1:2H10)
> > 	Subject: 
> > 	
> > 	
> > 
> > 	Hi Ahmad, All,
> > 
> > 	 The Binding revocation draft does not mention 
> revocation related to 
> > NEMO. If used as is, the BRI will revoke the binding 
> between the MR's 
> > HoA and CoA. I think it's woth adding another level of revocation: 
> > revocation of Mobile Network Prefixes. A HA may decide to stop 
> > forwarding data to the CoA for certain MNPs and BR could be 
> used for 
> > that. Here is a proposed text for a new section:
> > 
> > 	"In case of NEMO protocol, the HA follows the same 
> procedure as MIPv6 
> > if the goal is to revoke the binding between the Mobile 
> Router's HoA 
> > and CoA. It is also possible to have finer granularity of 
> revocation 
> > targeting the Mobile Network Prefixes assigned to the 
> Mobile Router. 
> > In this case, the HA sends a BRI message including one or more MNP 
> > options with the A bit set and the Revocation Trigger set 
> to a proper 
> > value, e.g. Administrative Reasons. When receiving this BRI, the MR 
> > deletes the MNP(s) from the Prefix Information field in the Binding 
> > Update List and responds with a BRA message.
> > The BRA MUST include the MNP(s) contained in the BRI."
> > 
> > 	Also, Mobile network Prefix should be addes as valid option in 
> > section "6.2. Binding Revocation Acknowledgement Message".
> > 
> > 	BR 
> > 	Desire
> > 
> > 
> 
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