Re: [mmox] Work Items and Planning Documents for the MMOX BoF session (Draft Charter)

Morgaine Dinova <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com> Fri, 06 February 2009 09:17 UTC

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:17:35 +0000
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From: Morgaine Dinova <morgaine.dinova@googlemail.com>
To: "Hurliman, John" <john.hurliman@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [mmox] Work Items and Planning Documents for the MMOX BoF session (Draft Charter)
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Hurliman, John <john.hurliman@intel.com>wrote:

> As it is written, the charter and timeline effectively subverts
> investigation of virtual world platform requirements and the evaluation of
> different technologies that fulfill those requirements. The charter
> specifically lists technology proposals from Linden Lab as established
> solutions to virtual world interoperability. The goals and milestones
> section lists a timeline for standardizing those solutions exclusively. I
> understand the need to transition Linden Lab proposals to standards, and I
> support such a move but not at the expense of excluding all other possible
> solutions. I propose that the charter and timeline be changed to ensure the
> agenda is open to additional proposals.

John, if the charter, goals and timeline are as you describe, then I agree
with you 100%.  Rubberstamping existing Second Life technology as a standard
for virtual worlds would be totally without merit, and endorsing LL's
current very narrow and unproven OGP solution as THE future Internet
standard under the aegis of the IETF would be ... well, let's not go there.
It would clearly be inappropriate, and unhelpful to the development of
virtual worlds.

However, I do not believe that that is the purpose of this workgroup,
because you will note that the charter is only a draft in expectation of
strong input from MMOX members (and OGP is Work in Progress anyway).  Let's
provide that input immediately, to prevent this starting off on the wrong
foot.

The charter needs to be phrased unambiguously to make it clear that this
workgroup is not an IETF PR annex of Linden Lab, but that it is dedicated
honestly to the creation of a flexible, vendor-agnostic protocol for
interoperation of diverse virtual worlds, not just now but for several years
into the future.  That implies extensibility, in breadth and in depth.  And
it implies openess to alternatives, and a desire to embrace them,

And in particular, it implies a focus on technical merit of solutions, and
not current business interests.

I agree that we appear to have been given a slightly questionable baseline
in LLSD ("Linden Lab Structured Data" is hardly a vendor-agnostic name) and
OGP (Linden Lab's own developing protocol) without any mention of
alternative approaches like Hypergrid that are already in operation.
However, these skews and omissions are (I believe) just artifacts of the
rush to establish MMOX.

Let's see how we can improve this.  I think that it's in our court to set
the path straight.

Morgaine.

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