Re: [mpls] Question on the status of Y.1711 and RFC3429

[Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau at lucidvision.com>]

> Tom,
>
> I think you should keep your personal problems with ITU to yourself.

	Thanks for the advice. I may keep this in mind for the future.

> I was not playing any games.

> I was just trying to understand your strange comments
> that Y.1711 has nothing to do with MPLS OAM.

	Back to my original point: Y.1711 is not IETF "MPLS OAM", which
what the original question was about.

	--Tom




> Shahram
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Nadeau [mailto:tnadeau at lucidvision.com]
> Sent: April-03-08 9:33 AM
> To: Shahram Davari
> Cc: 'Francesco Fondelli'; mpls at ietf.org; 'Masayuki Takase'
> Subject: Re: [mpls] Question on the status of Y.1711 and RFC3429
>
>
> 	Sharam,
>
> 	Lets please not play your normal games around this. We all know what
>
> you are getting
> at here, and I have little time or patience to play that useless game
> again...
>
> 	--Tom
>
>
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Could you please provide your definition of MPLS OAM? I have been
>> involved
>> in MPLS and OAM for more than 10 years and my understanding is that
>> Y.1711
>> is the first MPLS OAM defined in the industry.
>>
>> -Shahram
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mpls-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Thomas Nadeau
>> Sent: April-02-08 7:33 PM
>> To: Francesco Fondelli
>> Cc: mpls at ietf.org; Masayuki Takase
>> Subject: Re: [mpls] Question on the status of Y.1711 and RFC3429
>>
>>
>> 	ITU recommendation Y1711 has nothing to do with MPLS OAM.  If you
>> want a
>> good overview of IETF MPLS OAM take a look at RFC4221.
>>
>> 	--Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Francesco Fondelli wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Thomas Nadeau
>>> <tnadeau at lucidvision.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      How could you have built MPLS OAM to support label 14? Do
>>>> you mean
>>>> you implemented Y1711 using label 14?
>>>>
>>>>      --Tom
>>>
>>> Back in 2002/2003/2004? there used to be no 'T-' :-)
>>>
>>> http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-Y.1711/en
>>>
>>> "Y.1711: Operation & Maintenance mechanism for MPLS networks"
>>>
>>> Clear, isn't it? //I'm sarcastic
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> FF
>>>
>>
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