RE: [Nea] Draft NEA WG charter: Please review
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RE: [Nea] Draft NEA WG charter: Please review



I think we need to bound the scope of interoperability, or we’ll give ourselves an impossible problem to solve.  Trying to get “industry-standard semantically-rich” posture reports feels like an unachievable goal.  Trying to get an NEA agent broker from one vendor and an NEA server broker from another vendor to successfully exchange reports seems a more achievable goal.  I’d like us to first focus on the transport mechanism between the agent and the server, and if we have success in standardizing that, then we can move on to standardizing some forms of posture reports.

 

Barbara.

 


From: nea-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:nea-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Hardjono
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:27 AM
To: 'Susan Thomson (sethomso)'; nea at ietf.org
Cc: 'Steve Hanna'; 'Hardjono, Thomas'
Subject: RE: [Nea] Draft NEA WG charter: Please review

 

The Charter looks great.

 

One nit:  if interoperability is the target, perhaps one of the items that maybe useful is a standard structure for the posture information being sent from the NEA-Agent to the NEA-Server.

 

Thus, not only should NEA define the *type* of pipe (the "how") that extends between the NEA-Plugin and NEA-Posture-Server, but also *what* kinds of meaningful stuff flows between the two end-points.

 

This would allow true cross-vendor interoperability of NEA-Agents and NEA-Servers products (from differing H/W vendors and S/W ISVs).

 

Looking at the proposed charter, the EAP-Method in IF-PT could include this work item.  However, usually when the EAP WG talks about EAP-methods it doesn't specifically include semantically-rich posture reports.

 

Does this make sense?

 

cheers,

 

/thomas/

 

 


From: nea-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:nea-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Thomson (sethomso)
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:26 AM
To: nea at ietf.org
Cc: Steve Hanna
Subject: [Nea] Draft NEA WG charter: Please review

Architectures have been implemented in the industry to assess the software or hardware configuration of endpoint devices for the purposes of monitoring or enforcing compliance of endpoints to an organization's policy for access to the network. These architectures are not fully interoperable since some of the protocols used to implement the architecture are not standards.

 

The first purpose of the proposed working group is to define requirements for the protocols needed to ensure interoperability in an NEA system. The second purpose of the working group is to ensure standardization of protocols that meet these requirements. In some cases, these protocols may best be standardized in another working group. Therefore, the proposed working group will work with the area directors to determine the best way to complete this standardization effort (in the proposed working group or in another one).

 

The scope of the initial charter is on the following protocols that support architectures for network endpoint assessment (as described in draft-thomson-nea-problem-statement-00.txt):

 

1. IF-PB (posture broker protocol)

2. IF-PT (EAP method suitable for carrying posture information as well as supporting authentication)

3. IF-PT (EAP over IP transport protocol)

4. IF-NAE (Radius attributes for network access enforcement)

 

Other interfaces  that may be included in the charter at a later date include:

--- IF-PA (posture attribute protocol)

--- IF-SB (Protocol between server broker and posture server. Name of interface TBD in problem-statement I-D. )

 

Note that the initial scope of the WG targets architectures that use the EAP/Radius framework for IF-PT (posture transport interface) and IF-NAE (network access enforcement interface). This does not preclude the standardization of other posture transport protocols or network authorization protocols in the future, but this is not part of the initial charter.

 

Work will be carried out in two phases. In the first phase, the WG will define requirements for each of the protocols identified in 1) - 4) above. When the requirements have been defined, this WG will work with the responsible ADs to identify the appropriate WG for meeting these requirements.

 

Milestones:

 

June 2006:

* Submit requirements I-D to IETF  including 

--- requirements for IF-PT (EAP method layer)

--- requirements for IF-NAE

 

September 2006:

* Submit revised requirements I-D to IETF that includes above plus:

--- requirements for IF -PT (EAP over IP transport layer e.g. EAP over UDP, EAP over TLS)

--- requirements for IF-PB

 

December 2006:

* Review ongoing work in IETF (e.g. EMU WG, Radext WG, PANA WG, NEA WG) and work with ADs to identify the WG responsible for accommodating protocol requirements that are not currently being met.

 

Feb 2007:

* Submit  requirements I-D to IESG for publication as Info RFC

* Revise WG charter to accommodate definition of protocols not covered in other WGs e.g. IF-PB

* Submit I-D on  protocols to be defined in this WG e.g. IF-PB specification

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