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RE: [NSIS] New Name Proposal for NSIS/GIMPS



hi takako, 

> Hi Hannes,
> 
> I guess all of interim participants had many discussion for deciding
> this name.
i will send pictures from the meeting minutes a little bit later. that might
give you some ideas about our discussions. 

> 
> My first impression was "interesting", definitely :)
> 
> But, this word is too "direct" and, as I said, would cause technical
> confusion.
> I asked some of my colleagues' opinion about this name. All 
> of them had
> the same impression -- laughed first, but then said "very confusing".
> So, I'm afraid but Japanese people do not feel happy with this name so
> much...
interesting to hear you opinion. 

> 
> However if all of members feel happy with this name, I have 
> no reason to
> oppose this idea so strongly :)
> 

ciao
hannes

> -- Takako
> 
> 
> ##The word "AIZU" may be better, which has the same meaning 
> with "SINGOU"
> but not be used for technical term. How about "NAIZE (NSIS-AIZE)"? 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:53:26 +0200
> "Tschofenig Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig at siemens.com> wrote:
> 
> > hi takako, 
> > 
> > we actually thought that japanese folks would be happy to 
> see a protocol
> > with such a name. 
> > 
> > we had the impression that it is a nice name for a protocol. 
> > 
> > ciao
> > hannes
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Takako Sanda [mailto:sanda.takako at jp.panasonic.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:44 AM
> > > To: Cyrus Shaoul
> > > Cc: nsis at ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [NSIS] New Name Proposal for NSIS/GIMPS
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Cyrus and Interim participants,
> > > 
> > > SHINGOU... Sounds so strange!! (at least for Japanese 8-))
> > > 
> > > This name may cause serious problem or confusion as Japanese 
> > > people tend
> > > to translate technical terms into Japanese. The word "SINGOU" 
> > > covers any
> > > kinds of signals or signaling messages.
> > > At least, I cannot agree using unicode or ASCII art for 
> > > showing "SINGOU".
> > > 
> > > Alternative (my personal) ideas are:
> > > - Making small change for the word "SINGOU". such as "SINGOP"
> > > (Singo-protocol?!)
> > > 
> > > - Using some other language used in the people who do not 
> translate
> > > technical terms into their language, such as Greek, Arabic(?!) etc
> > > (In Greek, signal is "Sima").
> > > 
> > > How do you think?
> > > 
> > > --Takako
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 05:13:00 -0600
> > > "Cyrus Shaoul" <cyrus at ntt-at.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From the Interim Meeting in lovely Romsey....
> > > > 
> > > > A new name proposal for all of NSIS came up:
> > > > 
> > > > 	SHINGOU
> > > > 
> > > > Shingou also means "signal" in Japanese.
> > > > 
> > > > SHINGOU is not an acronym. It is SHINGOU.
> > > > 
> > > > GIMPS becomes SHINGO, and all NSLP applications will become 
> > > "SHINGO QoS",
> > > > "SHINGO NATFW", etc...
> > > > 
> > > > In Japanese and Korean, the characters are 信号. Can we use 
> > > UNICODE for
> > > > a protocol name???? :-) These characters could also be 
> > > rendered in ASCII
> > > > art, if need be.
> > > > 
> > > > It appears that there are no name collisions with other 
> products or
> > > > sites after a quick Google check.
> > > > 
> > > > Please send in your thoughts on this name today! (GOOD? BAD?)
> > > > If you say BAD, please send in a better name!
> > > > 
> > > > Cyrus Shaoul
> > > > cyrus at ntt-at.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > ----- 
> > > Takako SANDA <sanda.takako at jp.panasonic.com>
> > > Next-Generation Mobile Communications Development Center,
> > > Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. (Panasonic)
> > > Phone: +81 46 840 5764  Fax: +81 46 840 5122
> > > 
> > > 
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