Re: [OPS-AREA] Present day reality of COPS-PR

[Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com>]

On 2009-09-28 09:06, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote:
> I am not really interested to get involved too deeply in this discussion,
> certainly not at the level of detail that David does in his repsonse to Paul.

Ditto, however:

...
> This gives the impression that the IESG decided this on her own. The IESG did collect
> IETF input in various ways (BOF, info-gathering meetings, plenary discussion etc)
> and based on the input concluded that there was (albeit very rough) consensus to not 
> support PIB Modules on the standards track.

I'd like to say, as a case in point, that the diffserv WG produced both a MIB
(because Bert said we had to ;-) and a PIB. The latter (RFC3317) took almost a
year after we'd finished all the core work of the WG, but I've really never heard
of it being used extensively and it was only somewhat supported even while under
active development (see below). What Bert says fits that picture.

    Brian

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Updated summary Re: diffserv PIB: a question to the WG
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:47:35 +0100
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian at hursley.ibm.com>
Organization: IBM
To: Diff Serv <diffserv at ietf.org>
CC: Bert Wijnen <bwijnen at lucent.com>, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
References: <3C14DCBD.EFBE5EDA at hursley.ibm.com>

Summary so far:

Plan to use the PIB: 1
May use and implement the PIB: 1
Implemented/now implementing the draft PIB: 3

Also, the PIB is currently a normative reference in 3GPP.

More replies welcome; anonymity guaranteed if requested.

   Brian

Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>
> Diffservers,
>
> As you know the Diffserv PIB recently passed WG last call, and will be forwarded
> to the IESG as soon as the draft is updated.
>
> Now I have a question, at the request of the Ops and Management Area Directors:
>
> Can anyone who plans to implement the diffserv PIB (or has already done so)
> please let us know? If you don't want to answer on the list, please send
> me a private response.
>
> Thanks
>    Brian Carpenter
>    diffserv co-chair