Re: [Ospf-wireless-design] Design team outbrief (draft slides) posted
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Re: [Ospf-wireless-design] Design team outbrief (draft slides) posted



I think there is something rather confusing in the latest discussions: the use of the term adjacency, especially when compared to its traditional meaning in OSPF. For example, some simulation results tend to show that the MDR approach features a reduced number of adjacencies without featuring any route stretching -- if "min-hop" LSAs a used. However, this supposes that routing is not only done over adjacencies (indeed, if routing was only done over adjacencies, the MDR approach leads to more than 50% route stretching in most cases). This is thus very confusing, since in traditional OSPF routing is supposed to happen only over adjacencies. So there is here at least a vocabulary issue, that needs to be clarified in my opinion.

Emmanuel


Richard Ogier wrote:

Emmanuel Baccelli stated that MPR flooding offers better properties than CDS flooding, with at least as good topology reduction capabilities, and better routing stretch performance


After further consideration, I partly agree with the above statement
depending on how it is interpreted.
The part about "better route stretch performance" is true if we are
talking only about *flooding* and not *routing* (since routing can
occur along non-adjacencies).  Min-hop routing can be achieved either
with MPRs or with the min-cost LSAs described in the MDR draft.

The part about "good topology reduction capabilities" depends on how
adjacencies are defined. (By topology reduction I am talking about
adjacencies, keeping in mind that LSAs can also include non-adjacent
neighbors.) In our simulations, Phil and I showed that this
is certainly not true if each node forms an adjacency with each of
its MPRs and MPR selectors, and Emmanuel has agreed with this:

On the other hand using
MPR/MPRselector adjacencies does yield more adjacencies,
but no route stretching whatsoever.



If adjacencies are defined in another way, then the method needs to be specified. One possible way (which I plan to investigate by modifying OSPF-MDR) is to select the CDS/MDRs by pruning MPRs and then defining adjacencies as in the MDR draft, but Emmanuel did not specify such a method.

Richard




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