Re: [p2pi] Thoughts on how IETF standards can help P2P/ISPs
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Re: [p2pi] Thoughts on how IETF standards can help P2P/ISPs



Hi, Vijay,

I have a question.

As your paper is about "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization Problem" and 
CDN service,
does it mean that different appoaches are required for P2P file share, P2P 
voice, and P2P video applications.

Regards,

Gengyu
School of Computer Science and Technology
Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg at alcatel-lucent.com>
To: "Joe Touch" <touch at ISI.EDU>
Cc: <ramit at pando.com>; <p2pi at ietf.org>; <p4pwg at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [p2pi] Thoughts on how IETF standards can help P2P/ISPs


> Joe Touch wrote:
>> FWIW, there is a lot of work in peer selection in web cache hierarchies
>> that may be applicable here. Keith Moore's work (SONAR) comes to mind,
>> but there are others.
>>
>> Come to think of it, there are a lot of analogies between P2P - and P4P
>> - and web cache hierarchies. Has this been explored??
>
> Not to toot our horn here, but our position paper [1] provided
> what we think is a good literature review on application layer
> topology estimation -- from synthetic coordinate systems like
> Vivaldi, PIC, and GNP to the more recent work on Ono, which uses
> Akamai CDN servers to fine tune peer selection.
>
> By and large, the conclusions we arrived at following the
> literature review were summarized aptly by Enrico in an earlier
> email:
>
>   I think the IETF should focus on the first part of the
>   problem, the front-end of a generic third-party peer selection
>   service p2p applications can query in order to make better
>   choices; innovation and competition will then happen on the
>   back-end of such a service without requiring standardization
>   in the first place.
>
> [1] Enrico Marocco, Vijay K. Gurbani, Volker Hilt, Ivica Rimac,
>  Marco Tomsu - Peer-to-Peer Infrastructure: A Survey of Research on
>  the Application-Layer Traffic Optimization Problem and the Need for
>  Layer Cooperation
>
> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
> -- 
> Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent
> 2701 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9F-546, Lisle, Illinois 60532 (USA)
> Email: vkg at {alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org}
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