Re: [p2pi] Updated charter

["Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg at alcatel-lucent.com>]

Roy, Radhika R Dr CTR USA USAMC wrote:
> Gurbani:
>
> We thought that you accepted the comment on tracker-based system per
> your last email (July 15):
>
> OLD: The WG will consider tracker-based P2P systems (a la Bit
> Torrent) as well as tracker-less P2P networks.
>
> NEW: The WG will consider tracker-based P2P systems (a la Bit
> Torrent) that communicate among its Internet Service Provider
> (ISP)-based P2P systems as well as tracker-less (i.e. Non-ISP) P2P
> networks.

Radhika: Apologies if my answer was ambiguous.  I had written:

  Tracker-less does not necessarily imply non-ISP any more than
  tracker-based implies explicit ISP support.  IMHO, I believe that
  the text as written in the draft charter is sufficient and
  the conflation of the role of an ISP with the need for trackers
  may serve to confuse the issue further.

I still believe this to be the case, and as such, ended up not
modifying that part.

> PS: We are glad that you included a clarification on "oracle," this
> serves our purpose.

Sure.  Thanks for your time reviewing the charter and the
feedback on it.  Hope to see you in Dublin.

Regards,

- vijay
--
Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent
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Roy, Radhika R Dr CTR USA USAMC wrote:
> Gurbani:
>
> We thought that you accepted the comment on tracker-based system per
> your last email (July 15):
>
> OLD: The WG will consider tracker-based P2P systems (a la Bit
> Torrent) as well as tracker-less P2P networks.
>
> NEW: The WG will consider tracker-based P2P systems (a la Bit
> Torrent) that communicate among its Internet Service Provider
> (ISP)-based P2P systems as well as tracker-less (i.e. Non-ISP) P2P
> networks.

Radhika: Apologies if my answer was ambiguous.  I had written:

  Tracker-less does not necessarily imply non-ISP any more than
  tracker-based implies explicit ISP support.  IMHO, I believe that
  the text as written in the draft charter is sufficient and
  the conflation of the role of an ISP with the need for trackers
  may serve to confuse the issue further.

I still believe this to be the case, and as such, ended up not
modifying that part.

> PS: We are glad that you included a clarification on "oracle," this
> serves our purpose.

Sure.  Thanks for your time reviewing the charter and the
feedback on it.  Hope to see you in Dublin.

Regards,

- vijay
--
Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent
2701 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9F-546, Lisle, Illinois 60532 (USA)
Email: vkg at {alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org}
WWW:   http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/bell-labs
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