Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing draft
Fabio Hecht <hecht@ifi.uzh.ch> Fri, 21 August 2009 09:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing draft
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Yes, they are rather indirect effects. Still I have not seen them being considered. Regards Fabio On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:13 +0200, Enrico Marocco wrote: > This is actually interesting, but it seems to me that such effects are > generically related to increase of available capacity (that of course is > the implicit goal of traffic optimization, but is achieved also by > regular upgrades of the network infrastructure) rather than specific to > localization, no? > > Enrico > > Fabio Hecht wrote: > > Hi Enrico, > > > > two suggestion for myths: > > > > 1. Increased Overall Traffic > > > > Considering that "Increased Application Performance" is very likely, it > > is possible that P2P file-sharing users will download more files in less > > time. Overall traffic at ISPs could therefore increase. Even though the > > traffic will preferentially remain intradomain, it could reach a point > > where there is an increase even in interdomain traffic. It is difficult > > to estimate user behavior though. > > > > 2. Shorter Content Lifetime > > > > Also derived from "Increased Application Performance", it is possible > > that P2P file-sharing peers will download content faster. In the case of > > BitTorrent, for example, many peers would become seeders more quickly > > and reach the sharing ratio threshold for stopping seeding faster. The > > torrent would more quickly have no more seeders. > > > > Regards > > > > Fabio > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 11:24 +0200, Enrico Marocco wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> we have just submitted an updated version of the draft that, as agreed > >> in Stockholm and later on this list, is now an IRTF document and will be > >> kept alive for a while to track advances in the field. > >> > >> The draft is available at: > >> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-p2prg-mythbustering-00.txt > >> > >> Diffs from the previous version can be found at: > >> http://tinyurl.com/l2o6yt > >> > >> The new version should address most of the comments received on the > >> mailing list -- please check if it does -- including comments from > >> Arnaud sent back in February that for some reason got lost (my bad). > >> > >> The parts that need more work right now are probably those about > >> possible impacts on peering/transit agreements and security. We heard > >> some insightful comments in Stockholm and it would be great if people > >> who have an opinion could share their thought and propose text on the > >> list as well. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> p2prg mailing list > >> p2prg@irtf.org > >> http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2prg -- Fabio Hecht University of Zurich - Department of Informatics (IfI) Binzmühlestrasse 14 CH-8050 Zürich, Switzerland Ph.: +41 44 6357129 / 6350892 Fax: +41 44 6356809 VoIP sip:hecht@ifi.uzh.ch
- [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing draft Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Stevens.Le_Blond
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Fabio Hecht
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Stevens.Le_Blond
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2prg] New version of the mythbuster-ing dra… Fabio Hecht