I was wanting to ask you folks this question about the application of P2P SIP from your views. I have been following this email trail and since many of you are from the industry I wanted to understand a little from your perspective, the potential applications of P2P SIP. I would really appreciate if you people share their views and understanding here.
----- Original Message ----
From: Henry Sinnreich <hsinnrei at adobe.com>
To: Dean Willis <dean.willis at softarmor.com>; Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo at ericsson.com>
Cc: Ari at core3.amsl.com; jonathan at vidyo.com;
P2PSIP WG <p2psip at ietf.org>; sa2086 at columbia.edu
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:35:32 AM
Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] HIP for P2P SIP
Dean,
Yes to all your questions.
Henry
On 6/26/08 10:26 AM, "Dean Willis" <
dean.willis at softarmor.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>
>> Hi Henry,
>>
>>> Yes, I know, developing HIP code looks like opening a whole new can
>>> of
>>> worms, but nothing compares to what we are looking at now when
>>> trying to
>>> traverse NAT, support mobility, multihoming, etc. for each
>>> application
>>> protocol and their various flavors separately.
>>
>> yes, that is what HIP is about (i.e., implementing those functions
>> at a lower layer so that they do not have to be redesigned by every
>> single application-layer protocol).
>>
>
> This asks the question "Why don't we believe in HIP in this role?"
>
> Is it because we've seen HIP struggling to advance for many years and
> think we can move more quickly?
>
> Is it because we think the IETF's immune system will suppress HIP but
> that application-level work can move through?
>
> Is it because we think that doing this stuff at the HIP level requires
> widespread OS and IP stack changes, but that we can deploy application-
> level solutions without it?
>
> Is it because we think that if HIP solves the problems, then there
> will be no fun work left to do on applications?
>
> Or is there something else?
>
> There must be some reason, as I would think that if people really
> believed in HIP that the entire resources of the IETF would be bent
> towards getting it wrapped up and ready to go, since solving
these
> problems again and again for every different application makes no more
> sense than would reinventing IP for every application.
>
> --
> Dean
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